Chinese in the 2011 Dakar

[bigdamo]

Looks like just one Chinese rider in this years Dakar.

Rider No 149 Han Bao Hua on a Jincheng JC 450F.

Still in there after day 3.Currently in 160th position.

Will he make it to the finish?

Go Han.

[felix]

Just wondering, what bike is that Jincheng? Is that a chinese bike, or is it just a bit of sticker engineering on a foreign bike?

[Barry]

Just wondering, what bike is that Jincheng? Is that a chinese bike, or is it just a bit of sticker engineering on a foreign bike?

See post #393 here!

[euphonius]

Great thread! Would be great to have a Chinese finisher, even if he's on a Jincheng-badged Yammie. It's a bit of work wading through that 95-page ADVrider thread, however. is anyone blogging in Chinese?

thanks!

[felix]

Ah ok thanks for the reply! Out of interest, what's point/how do they get away with sticking their name all over someone else's bike?

[bigdamo]

Ah ok thanks for the reply! Out of interest, what's point/how do they get away with sticking their name all over someone else's bike?

Ok here's my view on it.

China is a big growing economy.One of the few in the world that is powering ahead.

Yeah if they wanted to they could put a stop to Jincheng racing but really what are there chances of taking a podium place?What are there chances of even finishing the event?

I think there happy seeing China taking part.Jincheng if it starts getting competitive things would probally change buts thats a long way off.

What are the chances of a Chinese made Motorcycle finishing the rally even the Chinese have worked that out.It's a huge difference from the Taklimakan rally.

It's the pinacale of rally raids.

Plus if they where asked "isn't that a Yamaha" they would probally say no we took the yamaha as a base and refined it into what we thought was a true motorcycle a Jincheng.

The Chinese don't like loosing face.

[MotoKai]

See post #393 here!

If these guys are on Jincheng-stickered Yamahas, then now I'm even more confused.....

Nanjing Jincheng Motorcycle Co., Ltd, the registered capital of which is RMB 80 million, is a subsidiary of Jincheng Group, its controlling shareholder. It formally began production in September, 1997. With an annual designing capacity of 200,000 motorcycles, it is responsible for manufacturing motorcycles of the model using the technology transferred by Jincheng Group and Japan Suzuki Motor Corporation. At present, its four styles of “Suzuki” brand motorcycles, namely SJ50QT、SJ110、SJ125T、SJ125 and “Suzuki” GF 125 engine using state-of-the-art technology are deeply favored by the domestic and overseas markets as well as the consumers for their high quality, outstanding performance and novel styles.

The company now has a group of professional high quality employees, who are technically skilled, good at management and knowledgeable. All the employees have accepted the technological training and research of Japanese Suzuki Motor Corporation.

What am I not getting?

[ChinaV]

If these guys are on Jincheng-stickered Yamahas, then now I'm even more confused.....

Nanjing Jincheng Motorcycle Co., Ltd, the registered capital of which is RMB 80 million, is a subsidiary of Jincheng Group, its controlling shareholder. It formally began production in September, 1997. With an annual designing capacity of 200,000 motorcycles, it is responsible for manufacturing motorcycles of the model using the technology transferred by Jincheng Group and Japan Suzuki Motor Corporation. At present, its four styles of “Suzuki” brand motorcycles, namely SJ50QT、SJ110、SJ125T、SJ125 and “Suzuki” GF 125 engine using state-of-the-art technology are deeply favored by the domestic and overseas markets as well as the consumers for their high quality, outstanding performance and novel styles.

The company now has a group of professional high quality employees, who are technically skilled, good at management and knowledgeable. All the employees have accepted the technological training and research of Japanese Suzuki Motor Corporation.

What am I not getting?

Red Bull makes sugar water with caffein, yet you will find their logos covering many bikes. Although Jincheng is a motorcycle company, I haven't seen anything from the web-o-sphere indicating they built their own Dakar machine from the ground up. Plenty of motorcycle companies in China have joint interests with Suzuki... Haojue and QingQi come to mind. So I'm guessing that Jincheng makes a bunch of Suzuki clones, but has deep enough pockets (and the passion) for creating a Dakar team. Good on them, it's nice to see a genuine interest in the sport, and I'm glad they're doing well. Their choice of a Yamaha based Dakar bike probably has nothing to do with their day to day business.

The embarrassing fact about those fancy Chinese corporate profiles, is when you read about the money, capacity, and technology they have access to, yet they are so tied up in building 125cc peasant mobiles. These Chinese factories have millions of dollars of equipment and personnel at their disposal, yet are unable to produce a single model that has rocked the motorcycle world. Kind of sad when you see all these tiny little shops in Europe or America creating works of art with barely a penny to their name.

Cheers!
ChinaV

[MotoKai]

The time is coming ChinaV....

Along with the J-20, China is developing sophisticated new warships, submarines, missiles, one or more aircraft carriers and motorcycles.

[humanbeing]

... four styles of “Suzuki” brand motorcycles, namely SJ50QT、SJ110、SJ125T、SJ125 and “Suzuki” GF 125

They don't build Suzuki anymore. That "GF125" equipped w/ 4-valve machine almost identical to Hyosung w/ same model name. Apart from models mention above, AX100 was their bread & cheese.

are so tied up in building 125cc peasant mobiles...

BIG player's new "peasant" model had minor improvement: OHC/ standard shift pattern / 150