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  1. #11 Re: Chinese in the 2011 Dakar 
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    forgot to mention, out of the 3 old Pablo is best in the ranking so far...

    Its taking part that counts!

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    Seems that the Chinese Car Companies withdraw, last week Cherry X5 was still mentioned to partizipate, I think GreatWall was also mentioned. Now all Chinese Car drivers are in Nissans, Mitsu and other...Only 1 in a Truck MAN
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    Quote Originally Posted by andre555 View Post
    forgot to mention, out of the 3 old Pablo is best in the ranking so far...

    Its taking part that counts!

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    Seems that the Chinese Car Companies withdraw, last week Cherry X5 was still mentioned to partizipate, I think GreatWall was also mentioned. Now all Chinese Car drivers are in Nissans, Mitsu and other...Only 1 in a Truck MAN
    Whats the chance old Pablo is on the team to get the other two through to the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdamo View Post
    Whats the chance old Pablo is on the team to get the other two through to the end?
    Whatever it takes!

    Go Pablo! Go Su! Go Han!

    By the way, who is this Jincheng Motorcycles, anyway????? 金城摩托车

    And here's their Dakar page. Say, where's Pablo??

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    Hey that Su is going well 67th overall.
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    We get crap coverage in Aus, just a 1/2 hour daily update but it is still worth watching. They often get a dozen punctures a day. Slime wouldn't fix that. The bikes are great but the trucks ... bloody insane!
    You'd wish some rich young Chinese play boy would take his Lambo money and spend it on rebuilding a Great Wall 4WD. I'd love to see one of them compete along with an Indian Maihundra 4WD. Be really special if they won!
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  6. #16 Re: Chinese in the 2011 Dakar 
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    Is there anyway of following the Chinese riders on any other website? Looks like Su is doing a great job and gradually moving up the order. Also, anyone know about the Jincheng bikes? Any webs? Are they Susuki or yamaha focused? I think Jincheng has JV with Suzuki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    See post #393 here!
    If these guys are on Jincheng-stickered Yamahas, then now I'm even more confused.....

    Nanjing Jincheng Motorcycle Co., Ltd, the registered capital of which is RMB 80 million, is a subsidiary of Jincheng Group, its controlling shareholder. It formally began production in September, 1997. With an annual designing capacity of 200,000 motorcycles, it is responsible for manufacturing motorcycles of the model using the technology transferred by Jincheng Group and Japan Suzuki Motor Corporation. At present, its four styles of “Suzuki” brand motorcycles, namely SJ50QT、SJ110、SJ125T、SJ125 and “Suzuki” GF 125 engine using state-of-the-art technology are deeply favored by the domestic and overseas markets as well as the consumers for their high quality, outstanding performance and novel styles.

    The company now has a group of professional high quality employees, who are technically skilled, good at management and knowledgeable. All the employees have accepted the technological training and research of Japanese Suzuki Motor Corporation.


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    Jape, wish no more. There is a Great Wall in the thick of things. Look out for car No 372, driven by Zhou Yong with co-pilot Sylvain Poncet. They started out badly with mech. troubles and had fallen to 127 at one stage. They came back strongly the very next day - overtaking 61 cars.
    As of now, with completion of stage 9, they are sitting pretty at the 16th spot overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoKai View Post
    If these guys are on Jincheng-stickered Yamahas, then now I'm even more confused.....

    Nanjing Jincheng Motorcycle Co., Ltd, the registered capital of which is RMB 80 million, is a subsidiary of Jincheng Group, its controlling shareholder. It formally began production in September, 1997. With an annual designing capacity of 200,000 motorcycles, it is responsible for manufacturing motorcycles of the model using the technology transferred by Jincheng Group and Japan Suzuki Motor Corporation. At present, its four styles of “Suzuki” brand motorcycles, namely SJ50QT、SJ110、SJ125T、SJ125 and “Suzuki” GF 125 engine using state-of-the-art technology are deeply favored by the domestic and overseas markets as well as the consumers for their high quality, outstanding performance and novel styles.

    The company now has a group of professional high quality employees, who are technically skilled, good at management and knowledgeable. All the employees have accepted the technological training and research of Japanese Suzuki Motor Corporation.


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    Red Bull makes sugar water with caffein, yet you will find their logos covering many bikes. Although Jincheng is a motorcycle company, I haven't seen anything from the web-o-sphere indicating they built their own Dakar machine from the ground up. Plenty of motorcycle companies in China have joint interests with Suzuki... Haojue and QingQi come to mind. So I'm guessing that Jincheng makes a bunch of Suzuki clones, but has deep enough pockets (and the passion) for creating a Dakar team. Good on them, it's nice to see a genuine interest in the sport, and I'm glad they're doing well. Their choice of a Yamaha based Dakar bike probably has nothing to do with their day to day business.

    The embarrassing fact about those fancy Chinese corporate profiles, is when you read about the money, capacity, and technology they have access to, yet they are so tied up in building 125cc peasant mobiles. These Chinese factories have millions of dollars of equipment and personnel at their disposal, yet are unable to produce a single model that has rocked the motorcycle world. Kind of sad when you see all these tiny little shops in Europe or America creating works of art with barely a penny to their name.

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    The time is coming ChinaV....

    Along with the J-20, China is developing sophisticated new warships, submarines, missiles, one or more aircraft carriers and motorcycles.

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