Loncin GN250

**humanbeing** · 05-22-2011, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by MJH

I just wonder if Wonjan cannot sell its GN250 in china

Rumor in chinese site say it's in govt C3 catalog. The REAL bike will sold in May/June & < 16k RMB.

A taobao shop that sold many "goodies" for these bike
http://wj-gn250.taobao.com/

**MJH** · 05-22-2011, 01:51 PM

Thank YOU

That is a very good page to have access to...

**humanbeing** · 05-22-2011, 02:28 PM

Some crazy idea to repair this 250 machine http://motorcycle.sh.cn/viewthread.p...d=75082&page=1

**MJH** · 05-22-2011, 03:11 PM

Very crazy I was not surprised at the ending.

**MJH** · 05-22-2011, 05:49 PM

I am not a metallurgist but seems that the era of copper and bronze came before the era of steel…that man made a repair with brass which is an alloy of the two and has a low melting point. The history of metal should have been considered and why…something to do with fires and being able to get them hot enough to melt iron hotter then what they were using to melt copper and bronze. LOL

Brass...easy to work with...yeah its soft.

Effort = A
Knowledge behind effort = F

**humanbeing** · 05-22-2011, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by MJH

I am not a metallurgist but seems that the era of copper and bronze came before the era of steel…that man made a repair with brass which is an alloy...

Almost ALL white chinese bike (w letter J in official model) have similar issue. Pigs don't really care oil level etc at ALL because it isn't their property

Those "sleeve" is made by another shop in prevouis repair, that crazy guy only "imporve" the desgin & "fixed" cam chain / took the f***ed bolt out.

**MJH** · 05-23-2011, 12:40 PM

I wondered if it was a police bike…I am sure it had lots of miles on it before they retired it.

**MJH** · 11-30-2011, 01:33 AM

Loncin in Poland as Zipp Skutery

**MJH** · 12-15-2011, 04:42 PM

Loncin saw the 2010 initial response of its version of the BMW G650GS as less then positive.

What did Loncin miss in the interaction with BMW engineers? Is it that form should follow function? Loncin believed that the shared engine would inspire confidence, but it may have been over shadowed by their exercise in creative design?

**MJH** · 12-15-2011, 06:55 PM

The bike looks high tech, underneath it all is a BMW engine that Loncin manufacture for BMW.
But does it fit in the existing Loncin product line, does it fit into the existing distribution channels? It actually over shot the market that Loncin actually operates within.

Who are their clients and what are they current offerings? It is over their market, the retail side of the giant is actually in reality small independent retailers. Those small dealers cannot afford or support that model.

Imagine a sales representative entering a store that offers primarily low costs scooters and announcing the new offering? Then also would the customer for that style motorcycle feel confident purchasing it at that level of retail?

A great design exercise, but also an exercise in futility.