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  1. #6231 Re: Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ben2go View Post
    I have been doing wheel work since I was a kid, about 30 years. I had no other choice but to repair my own wheels. There's no problems with ringing spokes and tightening them. It takes more than snugging up a few spokes to pull a rim out of true. There is more than one way to do things. If my way is wrong, then 90% of all spoke wheels are at risk of blowing up and killing everyone around. The dealerships and shops use the same technique as I to tighten a few loose spokes. Indepedent shops are where I learned how to repair wheels. These are China bikes. Most of them are not true from the factory. It was uncalled for the way you responded. We try to keep it civil around here.
    I don't care about your 30 years of backyard wheel work and frankly I don't care about hurting your feelings! There is a right way then theres the backyard mechanic way! Some of the "helpful" information is absolute trash! If your gonna tell somebody how to fix something at least tell them it's the shady way of doing it! Have u forgotten it's 2017 and they do not make rims like they used to! In today's world lighter is better and I know for a fact the rims on these bikes are very easy to bend and retard the true! I will stand strong on my opinion of needing to do it correctly! Go ahead and follow instructions based on saving money and see where it gets you!
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  2. #6232 Re: Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information 
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    Get something like this wheel stand to check trueness and balance. Just clip a pointer on it for trueness.
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    https://www.harborfreight.com/motorc...and-98488.html
    Don't forget your 20% off coupon.
    Also a spoke torque wrench is helpful.
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  3. #6233 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidMoMan View Post
    I've not removed the rocker cover, but am thinking it might be possible that my engine is a 165 & 167 cobbled together? The 165fmm (CB250D-G) is listed as a camshaft upward but mine does not have the rocker cover to house the camshaft & chain. So, I bet you are correct. My bottom end is stamped 165FMM.
    My 2012 DF's 167FMM engine looks the same as your DF's 165FMM engine.

    No telling what the Chinese will do.

    I painted my valve cover.
    1207171334.jpg

    You need to pull the valve cover and check your rocker arm clearances before you ride it too much.
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  4. #6234 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnone View Post
    My 2012 DF's 167FMM engine looks the same as your DF's 165FMM engine.

    No telling what the Chinese will do.

    I painted my valve cover.
    1207171334.jpg

    You need to pull the valve cover and check your rocker arm clearances before you ride it too much.
    How did you get your ignition where it's at above the rocker cover?
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  5. #6235 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnone View Post
    My 2012 DF's 167FMM engine looks the same as your DF's 165FMM engine.

    No telling what the Chinese will do.

    I painted my valve cover.
    1207171334.jpg

    You need to pull the valve cover and check your rocker arm clearances before you ride it too much.
    20171206_173944.jpg

    Yeah, here is the proof in the pudding. Go figure. Thanks!
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  6. #6236 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    Quote Originally Posted by slightwinner View Post
    How did you get your ignition where it's at above the rocker cover?
    Just moved it to where the air injection system was mounted.
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  7. #6237 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidMoMan View Post
    20171206_173944.jpg

    Yeah, here is the proof in the pudding. Go figure. Thanks!
    I bet your engine is a 167FMM and stamped 165FMM for some reason like EPA approval?
    Here it states that the engine is 229.2 ccs which is the167fmm displacement.

    http://www.df-motor.com/product_show.asp?id=675
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  8. #6238 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    ChBike.jpg

    https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...4a8239deBrjKN7

    Has anyone seen this bike for sale by a US distributor? I really like my China bike and would love to get this one in the 300cc. It has about the same wheelbase as our DF and I would think would make more than enough power to go highway speeds.
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  9. #6239 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidMoMan View Post
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    https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...4a8239deBrjKN7

    Has anyone seen this bike for sale by a US distributor? I really like my China bike and would love to get this one in the 300cc. It has about the same wheelbase as our DF and I would think would make more than enough power to go highway speeds.
    Unfortunately, the US distributor have only received EPA/DOT approval for the 229cc Zongshen-OEM engine. They have the certificate for all their bikes across their lineup that use this engine. On the EPA site, they list their enduros, the bobbers, the cruisers, and their sporty bike etc. on the same certificate! They got their money's worth

    The downside is we won't be seeing a larger engine anytime soon here in the US.
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  10. #6240 Re: what this bike should have been from the start 
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    culcune,
    You seem to up on all the Chinese engines. Can you explain what appears to be a 167FMM engine on the newest DF250RTB being stamped as a 165FMM? Thanks

    20171206_173944.jpg
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