Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information

**demidestructo** · 08-21-2015, 11:38 PM

Hi guys Im sorry to barge in here but Ive been posting and not had any responses and you were talking about something l need to know about.Im looking at taking my 150cc to 250cc or as big as I can go.Then I was looking for porting and 5 angle valve job and cyinder head decking.My goal is to make a supermoto with the same power to weight ratio as a 5000 dollars factory supermoto for under a thousand dollars.Im doing very well as I'm at 550 and already got 17s with tires,fmf factory 4.1 with high flo header,a big brake and lever with master, and I'm lightenng it where ever I can find weight . please help

**zhu** · 08-22-2015, 02:27 AM

demidestructo you are beyond help

**MJH** · 08-22-2015, 08:49 AM

beyond the the interests of this forum for sure.

race bikes, with limited engine size is were you will find like visions.

**demidestructo** · 08-22-2015, 09:28 AM

Im sorry , your saying no one is interested in what im talking about this bike is not for racing its just to see what are the limits of the china motors.I would think for durability someone would be surprised to know someone got a big hp number and the engine stayed together. I was going to say something really mean to Zhou but ill just not come back, and i have a 132 iq and am a savant. So I could have helped a lot probably with peoples stuff.Have fun everyone

**zhu** · 08-22-2015, 12:03 PM

Zhu The name is zhu . Demidestucto don't clutter this thread just reply in your own thread. Nobody answered you because ... well you just asked too many questions in one go.

**birdmove** · 08-24-2015, 07:11 PM

Anyone know who sells this bike other than scooterdepot.com?

Thanks, Jon

**axa** · 08-25-2015, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by demidestructo

Im sorry , your saying no one is interested in what im talking about this bike is not for racing its just to see what are the limits of the china motors.I would think for durability someone would be surprised to know someone got a big hp number and the engine stayed together. I was going to say something really mean to Zhou but ill just not come back, and i have a 132 iq and am a savant. So I could have helped a lot probably with peoples stuff.Have fun everyone

fwiw i tried to gauge interest for such things in this thread. no bites...
you might get alot of lip service on what can and cant be done, and what the results might be but real world results are few and far between.

That said, on my 167fmm, ive done the head porting, polishing and grinded messed a bit with the valve seats. ive back cut my valves, even tried something called power rings
And a bunch of other things that I can hardly recall.
Ultimately it was the head deck to higher compression that got anything done...
Put it this way, even when going from a head with 1.25" intake valve to a head with a smaller 1" or 1.125" intake valve but with a higher compression, the head with the smaller valves gave more power.

This demonstrated to me all the porting, polishing, back-cuts, or seat angles couldn't possibly provide more airflow than a much larger valve... its all a red herring on a low power engine.

All in all I was able to gain just enough power with the head deck that im able to hold my own on the roads i dare to drive... but truth is there just so little overall potential that going after it is otherwise a large a waste of time.
I even bored out my old cylinder a half over hoping to get a hold of one of the very few 67.5mm pistons that were made for ccw by wiesco, but that looks more of a, 'so we can say we have it' item then anything that has been proven worthy.

you want to go fast, get another bike, preferably a OHC, multi valve, multi cyclinder, big bore, long stroke, high compression engine...

**SR.MAILMAN** · 08-25-2015, 02:20 PM

VERY WELL SAID !!!

Your last sentence sums it up best. I congratulate you for your humble honesty.

**barnone** · 08-28-2015, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by birdmove

Anyone know who sells this bike other than scooterdepot.com?

Thanks, Jon

Jon,
I bought mine from Chad at http://www.extremescooters.biz/250cc...chopper-A.aspx but they are out of stock again.
They also raised the price to $2,448

**barnone** · 08-28-2015, 07:22 PM

They had the B model at $1999 http://www.extremescooters.biz/250cc...chopper-B.aspx
but it is also sold out.

I don't know why they can't get any more.

Other places have it. Try googling DF250RTB

I'd think about buying another DF250RTB-A if I could get it at $2100 delivered like I did my last one as I am very happy with the one I have.