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  1. #5781 Re: Starter motor brushes 
    Senior C-Moto Guru Zorge's Avatar
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    If someone among Chinese manufacturers decided to use different engine mount pattern (at least, couple of those at the back, whose role is also to determine position of the front sprocket) on their CG clone, this would be strange decision. And again, as I can see, depending on engine configuration, engine mounts on the head and in front of the crankcase can differ. Bottom line: if someone doesn't come up with evident proof that those two rear engine mounts are different, I will believe that all CG clones have the same mounts.

    Why I throw in CB clones too? Because CG 125 engine is derived from CB 125 engine (not CB 125 T, which is twin cylinder) back in the mid 70's by replacing valvetrain, switching from OHC to OHV. As I have read not once in CG 125 history, other alterations would be unnecessary expense so... crankcase and their engine mounts should be the same. So, as I wrote, if someone doesn't come up with evident proof...

    Who knows, maybe even CBF clones have same engine mounts as older CBs and CGs. I must to carry with me measuring tape and do some measuring when I stumble upon those engines.

    About dual exhaust ports on CB you mentioned: I have no reasons to doubt that some Chinese engineer could decide to implement this configuration, but all CB 125 clones (including those bored out) I saw are with single exhaust port. For example, "bowtiewagon" posted link for used CB clone. Here is one of the photos I found there - http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RGAAAO...J4/s-l1600.jpg . As you can see, it is single exhaust port configuration.

    Twin exhaust ports you can see right on GN 250 clones.
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    This is the form used when importing an engine, if you import the same model engine that is on your EPA certified motorcycle, check the box “code W” under “Excluded Vehicles”.
    https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...nts/3520-1.pdf

    If you have any question contact the EPA, below is the EPA page with the above forms link and a contact link.
    https://www.epa.gov/importing-vehicl...motor-vehicles
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  3. #5783 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    I got a response from the seller of the Lifan CG250. Freight is more than the price of the engine.
    If you buy 50 of the Lifan GG250 engines they are $150 each!

    MJH, thanks for the EPA info.

    Will it install without too much trouble? Who knows. Measurements of the engine contained in the link below.
    Anyway probably too slow to get for bowties requirement of a fast repair.

    Hi Vincent
    We are pleased to inform you that yoga from China (Mainland) has confirmed your order. We will send a notification when/if your order details are changed.
    yoga Chongqing Lihan Machinery Parts Co., Ltd.
    Lifan CG250 air-cooled 167fmm engine
    1 Set/Sets US $ 300
    Waiting for confirm
    Total Price: US $ 610



    http://cqlihan.en.alibaba.com/produc...mm_engine.html
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    Reply below when I asked if this engine is EPA approved

    Hi Vincent
    Vincent,

    Sorry to say that we don't have EPA approval.
    So it's not allowed to export to USA.

    Thank you!
    Yoga

    So forget about it!
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  4. #5784 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    MJH thanks for the form.I am confused though. Is thisrequired when purchaseing any engine from over seas? I mean, If I buy something off ebay.. does that mean I need this form as well?

    Or if I can go through a dealer.. like a local scooter shop, will the form be required?

    Also thank Bar. I have noticed that many of these motors are less than the shipping for them. Still less than a new bike. I am keeping my fingers crossed that when I pull it apart it is something I can fix easily. Hopefuly by saturday I will know what is up.

    One more question.. Is THA Heist the same bike as thses? I alwasy thought they were, but not sure. I sent them an email yesterday, wondering if they could sell a motor. Have not heard back yet.
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  5. #5785 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    Neither the Heist in 2011 nor the Dongfang in 2010 declared Lifan as the Engine OEM, they both list the name of the company as some other manufactured brand.
    The engine is a OHV 229cc, the fact that the EPA states the engine OEM as other could get it stuck in red tape.
    Heist 2011 certificate
    Category Certificate No. Engine Family Manufacturer Name Engine OEM MFR
    Highway Motorcycle - II (170-279cc) BCCWC.250QJC-001 BCCWC.250QJC Cleveland CycleWerks LLC. Qingqi Group Ningbo Rhon Motorcycle Co., Ltd.








    Dongfang 2010 certificate
    Category Certificate No. Engine Family Manufacuter Name Engine OEM MFR
    Highway Motorcycle - II (170-279cc) ADGFC.229MMA-001 ADGFC.229MMA Dongfang Motor, Inc. Ningbo Dongfang Lingyun Vehicle Made Co., Ltd.

    If the engine is already in the USA the importing has already happened, bringing one in requires the form and ideally the engine OEM should match the existing vehicle certificates OEM.

    The question would be does it have to be the same manufacturer or can it be another manufacturer as long as it is the same engine which is...
    Model:167FMM-M
    Type: Single-cylinder,four-stroke,air-cooled hand-clutched outer-balance shaft 250cc
    Displacement: 229ml
    Compression ratio: 9.2:1
    Primary reduction: 3.333
    Bore*Stroke: 67mm*65mm
    Max.Power & Rotating Speed: 12.5kw/7000r/min
    Max.Net Power & Rotating Speed: 11.5kw/7000r/min
    Rated Power & Rotating Speed: 11.2kw/7000r/min
    Max.Torpue & Rotating Speed: 16N.m/6000r/min
    Min.Fuel Consumption:≤354g/kw.h
    Ldling Speed:1500r/min
    Ignition:CDI
    Starter: electric/kick starter
    Lubrication: Pressure/splash
    Transmission: 5 speed
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  6. #5786 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowtiewagon View Post
    Thank you again sir.
    did you crack that head open yet. this could be all for nil
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  7. #5787 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    bow,
    If you buy an engine already in the USA (Ebay, US dealer, etc) then you do not need the form.
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  8. #5788 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    I have yet to get into the engine, working too much gonna wait for the weekend. Just covering options at this point.
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  9. #5789 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    Hate to be a bother guys. But anyone got a diagram on how to remove the head?. I am not motorcycle engine familiar, and I feel I will screw something up more. Took the plug out. Looks good, popped the valve cover, valves are good, not sure how to remove head.
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  10. #5790 Re: Starter motor brushes 
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgP...ature=youtu.be
    this is what it sounds likem, I am not removing anything due to it still is running..oddly. it started. But sounds like crap. Timing perhaps?? thanks guys.. in advance.
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