Dong Fang DF 250 RTB Bobber Information

**Aboshi** · 02-28-2011, 02:37 PM

Gardo:

Thanx for the info =)
I will make some calls today and hopefully get some good news about titling these things up here.
I would hate to have a $2000+ toy that I cant use on the streets.

**barnone** · 02-28-2011, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Aboshi

I was thinking of buying a few of these for all of my brothers and myself from scooterdepot. Did you're bike come with a actual title to register or just a MSO? I ask because I'm in NY and it is nearly impossible to register an off road vehicle with a MSO here without jumping through hoops for months, and even then it gets denied. I know all the sites say this bike is street legal but that doesn't mean a thing without a title in NY or a way to get one easily.

My response for same question on chinariders:

It is suppose to come with a MSO just like any other vehicle. The MSO needs to say that the vehicle meets EPA and DOT requirements for on road use in the USA. Never heard of a new vehicle coming with a title, usually the dealer handles the paper work (for a fee) to get a title/tag for you so you never see the MSO or MCO or COO.

My three other crate vehicles came with a filled out MSO that I took to my county tag office along with a bill of sale and got a tag and title(in the mail) after paying sales tax and other fees.

That said, I am still waiting for my filled MSO and bill of sale from the place where I bought my bobber. Luckily I used Paypal and have a dispute opened with the vendor throught them and Paypal is withholding my payment to them. If I don't get the paper work soon so I can register the bobber then I going to cancel the payment and tell the vendor to come get their bike.

I had the same problem when I bought my Qlink XF200 and used Paypal to get the dealer to respond.

EDIT:
Scooterdepo has a very bad reputation according to some on this site. Turns out that the vendor I bought from is scooterdepo under an alias website. It appears that they have multiple alias web sites.

**barnone** · 02-28-2011, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou

That really is a cool bike!

Is it genuinely a hard tail? I didn't know they were still allowed to make those (probably another fictitious rumor I heard about hard tails being outlawed).

And ditto - I agree those are entertaining pics! Thanks.

Lao,
It's a real hardtail. The spring you see is for the seat.

**barnone** · 02-28-2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by euphonius

Barnone, thanks for the pix. Never enough.

Please get someone to shoot some video of you using that bobber to herd those cattle to their next feeding. Lasso in your clutch hand.

Better yet, video of you on the bobber herding last year's crop of 'gators to their next feeding!!

Yeeehaw!

jkp,
You don't have to herd cattle or gators for a feeding.

Just show up with a feed bag and they come a running or swimming.

**barnone** · 02-28-2011, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by ChinaV

Those engines do look similar. Have not seen the 400cc one in any of the motor shops in Guangzhou MC market. Thinking it might be one of the 4 speed jobs designed for ATV's and not motorcycles

.

Alibaba vendor usually means just a trading company. If Guangdong Yatian Industrial Co., Ltd. is such a powerhouse in the manufacturing world, you would think they might have a decent website and spec sheet to get some further info.

Cheers!
ChinaV

ChinaV,
Response from vendor:

"Dear Mr. Vincent Santamaria,
Good day and thank you for your kind inquiry.

About the 400C engine, the certification you need EPA&DOT which we do not have, and sorry.

Could you please let us know more about your company and business then maybe we have chance to cooperate next time?

With regards.
--------------------------------------------
Best regards,
Blair(Mr.)
Sales Representative"

So no EPA so no good for me.

**barnone** · 02-28-2011, 05:19 PM

WARNING WARNING
False alarm. Just a slow dealer.

**Aboshi** · 02-28-2011, 05:35 PM

barnone:

Thanx for the fast response =)

WoW good to know I wont be using scooterdepot!
I am going to call up countyimports today and hopefully they will be helpful =)
I have spent the last 3 hours on the phone with DMV here in NY and they assured me that as long as the MSO/MCO says it meets federal regulations they will have no problems issuing a title, so I am quite excited =) I need to buy 4 of these things at once so I hope they give me some sort of deal.

**barnone** · 02-28-2011, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Aboshi

barnone:

Thanx for the fast response =)

WoW good to know I wont be using scooterdepot!
I am going to call up countyimports today and hopefully they will be helpful =)
I have spent the last 3 hours on the phone with DMV here in NY and they assured me that as long as the MSO/MCO says it meets federal regulations they will have no problems issuing a title, so I am quite excited =) I need to buy 4 of these things at once so I hope they give me some sort of deal.

The MSO that came with the bike in the crate is an off road type MSO and DID NOT state " This vehicle and equipment conforms to all ....EPA DOT..." .

My seller promised a street legal MSO/COO and bill of sale and they sent one for a complely different bike.

I'd wait if I was you until or if I get mine straightened out.

**Aboshi** · 02-28-2011, 07:39 PM

Yeah I think I will be waiting...
I called countyimports MSO department and they swear it is street legal and will come with a correct MSO to title the bike but I don't know if I would put my faith in that... I would hate to have to do a charge back of $9k and go through all the hassle.
I hope they sort out everything for you, this is a really cool looking bike and I know it would be a perfect starter bike for all of my brothers.
Good Luck and keep us posted please =)

**Gardo** · 02-28-2011, 08:54 PM

Well that just blows I hope they settle this all out Barnone. Mine is supposed to be here tomorrow. i dont want to deal with the hassle of refusing the shipment and getting my money back