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  1. #1 flip front helmets 
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    I haven't checked with the vendor about DOT or ADR yet but this looks like a neat helmet. I like full face but they are a pain when adjusting sunnies, scarf, eating, drinking, talking, anything really!

    I wonder though about the strength of flip-front helmets in a crash. Can't be as strong as a fixed full-face. Any thoughts?

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    jape,
    Good news on the safety of modular helmets. (Snell labs checks the safety of chin bars and DOT does not).
    See:
    http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/zeus-.../zeus-zs-3000/
    The Zeus ZS-3000: First Flip-up Helmet to Meet Snell 2005 Safety Standards!
    Summary
    The Zeus ZS-3000 has excellent quality, a solid-feeling helmet shell and a comfortable liner that is removable and washable. The helmet is also convertible to an open-face style; and, best of all, the ZS-3000 is currently Snell approval in the small shell size (XS to M).
    The helmets are also available in a wide array of colors and graphics not often seen on a flip-up. Combine that with some of the lowest prices around for a flip-up helmet and our prediction is that Zeus won't be able to make these fast enough!

    EDIT: Zeus ZS-3000 only available in size XS, S, M

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    Dammit, as some have remarked, I have a big head ... XL in fact.
    I have sent a query to vendor (in China as usual) asking about compliance with DOT, ECE 22.05 (Europe and UK), or AS 1698 (Australia) motorcycle helmet safety standards. Apparently AS is best because it tests all batches of helmet somehow, while DOT is just a random testing and ECE is tested for two knocks but not so hard as the AS! Will post what they say.
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    i've seen alot of the Old guys up here in their modular helmets and often remarked how comfortable they are on their scooters and touring bikes
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    Well I'm nearly an official 'Old Guy', 60 in a month so I wouldn't mind being comfortable like the 'road cruisers'. They probably all lived good lives and saved their money and got Shoei. Me, well lets just say $100 is a stretch so cheap Chinese is fine if it meets standards. Can't ride much at the moment so I am planning ahead looking at such things as this helmet and some proper mc boots.
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    andre555 can you see this? Please show us your Nolan. Has a detachable chin bar instead of the bulky looking flip cover.
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    Looks very similar to the LS2 FF369 ->http://s.taobao.com/search?q=ls2+369
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    Jape,

    These flip-front helmets are called "modular" to distinguish them from full-face, three-quarter, open face and other designs. Here in China there are lots of choices, and the major brands all seem to be DOT if not SNELL approved. The most popular seem to be the Yohe and LS2 models, both in the neighborhood of US$50. The model you found in eBay is probably a variation on one of these.

    I've also been looking at the Nolan N103 and the Scorpion EXO900, both of which are available in China in the $150-200 range, i.e., still cheaper than in the US. These both have compartments for bluetooth systems. The Scorpion is called the "Transformer" because its chin bar can be adapted to create three different helmet styles.

    I tried the Nolan and did not like the fit. I'm going to try the Scorpion today, but will probably try the two cheaper models in the same shop.

    If you want to see the (dizzying) full range of modulars in Taobao, try this link.

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    Nolan N43 AIR - Thats what I use - comfortable, flexible, excellent ventilation, not cheap though.
    With integrated sunshades, I wear glasses, so can flip sunshades down if needed, no need to change glasses. Important also for the unlit tunnels you encounter in China!

    Be carefull there are two versions of the N43, only the Air has the all ventilation oppenings!

    Can be retrofitted witha Bluetooth Handsfree/Intercom Kit.

    I would never buy a helmet without trying it. If the size does not fit you can carry watermeleons from the market home, but what else?

    Full review and more pictures are here:
    http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motor...met/nolan-n43/
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    Andre,

    Interesting helmet! Hadn't seen that one before. Do you generally run it with the chin bar in place?

    Here's the N43 in Taobao. Yes, not cheap!
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