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  1. #1 Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
    Danger, Will Robinson! Lao Jia Hou's Avatar
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    So far, this is what I've discovered can be registered / plated in Beijing (besides the usual suspects of Harleys & BMWs). One dealer's prices in Beijing

    Yamaha YBR 250 - 25,800 rmb

    Honda Shadow (150 cc) - 15,000 rmb
    Honda Fighthawk (150 cc) - 12,800 rmb
    * didn't Honda used to sell a bike called the "Nighthawk"?

    Regal Raptor 350E-6C - 25,000 rmb

    Kymco Venox (250 cc) - 59,800 rmb
    * interesting bike

    Various scooters, including:

    Kymco Like (180 cc) - 13,800
    * becoming very popular in Beijing - see lots around, post license plate lottery system

    Jialing JH600 (still not sure if Jialing applied/passed C3).

    Please add to this list, as you find information.
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  2. #2 Re: Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
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    Add CFMoto CF250T-6A (Jetmax [Jie-ma]) maxi scooter came out with EuroIII EFI from the get go, and even went an upgrade from second production run on.
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  3. #3 Re: Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao Jia Hou
    Honda Fighthawk (150 cc) - 12,800 rmb
    * didn't Honda used to sell a bike called the "Nighthawk"?
    That's the Sundiro Honda CBF150. Name taken in inspiration from the nighthawk.

    Everything sub 150cc is still registrable under E3 emissions. E3 requires engines over 150cc to be EFI, lower than that carburetor is still OK.
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    Add:
    CF650NK 650cc twin cylinder sport bike from CFMoto (Hangzhou) see a promo video here
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  5. #5 Re: Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
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    Hi, I'm going to do the license test on tuesday, can't wait to buy a motorbike, I read more and more in mychinamoto and it sounds to be more and more compliacted. I was thinking about Shineray GY-7. I wrote about it to one of the community members (thank you) and he warned me to check if the bike can be legally registered. I guess he ment the C3 rules. Does it mean I can't register this bike? Is there no special way to do it? Or to pimp the bike with some fancy exhaust pipe to do the standards? I'm a total lame about motorcycles so sorry if my question doesn't sound very serious. looking forward to hear from you, thanks!
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  6. #6 Re: Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
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    If the bike doesn't meet China3 standards, there's no amount of pimping you can do to make it pass. It's an administrative approval that is between the manufacturer and the government. There are not many bikes that meet the standard right now, especially those with carburetors rather than electronic fuel injection, so the manufacturers, if they want to keep selling in the China market, have to upgrade their bikes to EFI then submit test results that prove that their updated bikes meet the tougher emissions standards.

    The list that Lao Jia Huo compiled above is close to comprehensive, though a number of manufacturers have said they would have new C3 compliant bikes in the market sometime in 2011. Not sure about the Shinerays, though it should not be too hard to find out. Check with your local Beijing dealers.

    good luck!

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  7. #7 Re: Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
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    Thank you for the fast reply. does it mean that all the chinese manufacturers are no allowed to sell their bikes until they meet the standards? That must be quite painfull for the idustry. How about buying a used motorbike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by filipu View Post
    Thank you for the fast reply. does it mean that all the chinese manufacturers are no allowed to sell their bikes until they meet the standards? That must be quite panfull for the idustry. How about buying a used motorbike?
    Yes, that's correct. A new motorcycle that does not meet China3 emissions standards cannot be legally registered, and manufacturers are scrambling to make their current models compliant.

    A used bike should be OK, as long as is is legally registered, meaning it met the prevailing standard (China2) when that was in force. If you have legal residency and qualify for registration at your current legal address, it should be a straightforward process of transferring ownership of a legal bike from a previous owner to you.

    good luck!
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    Ok, that's all i need to know for the moment. Many thanks!
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  10. #10 Re: Legal bikes discovered post-C3 emissions rules 
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    I find this interesting,
    http://www.zongshenpem.com/corporate...0110304-1.html

    "Chinese central government has fully enacted the emissions standards set out in State Policy No. 3 ("G3') which bans the production and sale of motorcycles that do not meet this emissions standard."

    Is that correct did they ban production as well as domestic sale?

    Then all non conforming production stopped as of July 1, 2010...I do not think that is correct. I think that the production of nonconforming motorcycle for export markets is still going on. Is it only domestic sale and not production actually the same as before except now at G3 standards above the past G2.
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