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#21 Re: I got hit by a car.
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#22 Re: I got hit by a car.
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#23 Re: I got hit by a car.03-30-2011, 09:52 PM
TIC = This Is China (intended to be a comment on how "different" [illogical to us] China is from what we are used to)
Sad to say, but that video shows events that are surprisingly common. In Beijing, there is a DAILY 30 minute television show that recaps the prior day's gruesome traffic accidents caught on CCTV. There appears to be no shortage of material to broadcast. And, IMHO, Beijing drivers are light years ahead of the drivers in 2nd and 3rd tier cities. It must be because traffic moves at such a snail's pace.
Re: riding in bike lanes. I've had police tell me to get into them, and police tell me to get out of them. TIC
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#24 Re: I got hit by a car.
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#25 Re: I got hit by a car.03-31-2011, 02:41 AM
I was relaying a story to Barry at a lunch break during a little ride we had yesterday ... I'll share it here ...
A couple of years ago, I was trying to figure out what the h3ll was the "truth" about the difference between blue "A" plates and yellow "A" plates. People had been telling me that <50cc bikes required a blue plate, whereas 50cc (and more) required a yellow plate. Others were saying the cutoff was 100cc ... others had different stories. There is so much gossip that flies around the all-knowing expat community, I thought I'd ask the all-knowing-police at the Traffic Management Bureau (the place that issues these things for motorcycles). They should know, right?
I went to the counter, asked the all-knowing-policeman a simple question - got a simple answer ... which was then immediately contradicted by another all-knowing-policeman. The two policemen started to argue, then a third policeman came into the fray with a third story.
So, I was standing there, dumbfounded, and finally walked away totally confused. I turned around as I was leaving the building and the three were still arguing.
The "rule" is, I guess, it depends on who is on the counter that day.
TIC
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#26 Re: I got hit by a car.03-31-2011, 03:04 AM
Glad you're ok soberpete, that's the most important.
About the video, I understand why they do it, and the big challenge they have to educate all the people in China about the risks and mainly about the consequences of erratic behaviors of the streets.
That being said, I will maybe ruffle some feathers here : it's unbearable to watch, it's more than borderline on voyeurism, and I don't understand one bit why people are watching it (more than 10sec I mean).
Maybe I think like an European not like a Chinese, but yeah I know the risks, and yeah I know what's the result of a 30 tons truck hitting a bike and then running over a body... If somebody can think they can survive it, they're pretty damned stupid anyway.
Putting together some gruesome videos is not gonna fix anything. As you know, I just passed my driving license and wrote a long report about it on my presentation thread. As long as China will have this type of "training" and road education, you're gonna see this EVERY DAY somewhere in China. Scaring people is not the solution. Establishing a real driving education and making sure the system cannot be by-passed with bribery is the way to go. Sure there will always be accidents, in USA, in Europe or in China, but not like this.
Doing this video is like peeing on yourself to keep warm...
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#27 Re: I got hit by a car.03-31-2011, 05:04 AM
Pete, the shoulder check you should have done is sometimes referred to as the 'lifesaver look', which is actually better than using a mirror.
Because of videos like these from Heze Chinese car drivers mostly all stop at 'super long to cycle through' traffic lights these days, like a bad parent telling their child what to do because 'it's safer and is the law/rules' but not explaining the underlying reasons why. Their perception is that not obeying traffic lights causes accidents.
A red light - making me stop mostly for no reason, when a yield and look would have been enough, a green light trying to convince me it's safe to go through the lights without looking at a normal speed. I view them both red and green cynically.
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#28 Re: I got hit by a car.
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03-31-2011, 07:01 AMQuite true, you cannot rely on the traffic signals while driving here. They're like polite suggestions that are there for reference only (also true of the the lines on the road). After a while driving a specific route one can learn which are the intersections where locals ignore the lights, but as a rule I check my mirrors constantly for the idiot who is going to pass me while I wait for it to change.
What I find most interesting about Pete's OP is that although he was doing a legal maneuver, it looks absolutely crazy to turn left across lanes of traffic in an intersection.
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#29 Re: I got hit by a car.
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03-31-2011, 08:51 AMWow, glad you are OK. Gnarly video below...
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#30 Re: I got hit by a car.03-31-2011, 08:53 AMWhat I find most interesting about Pete's OP is that although he was doing a legal maneuver, it looks absolutely crazy to turn left across lanes of traffic in an intersection.
I guess the issue in this case is it was two left turn lanes, and then two straight lines. In this case I'd line up in the middle of the 4 lanes. Maybe that's what you've all been saying and I just didn't get it.--
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