Other interesting…or not…EPA facts.

[MJH]

I am sure that they are exporting...
http://www.peugeotscooters.com/become-an-importer/

Some companies believed that they can use the low cost manufacturing in china to bankroll R&D of more advanced vehicles. Selling low cost vehicles for higher prices under a recognized brand name. Peugeot is supposedly working on greener vehicles, its on their website.

[Maux]

The Ural IS interesting. The rear suspension look odd, is it chain drive, is that why? I'd also like to know if the horn style headlight brackets could fit on early 80's BMW forks because their hard to find and the bracket on my R/65 is the ugly one that should be covered.

Oh, Barnone, I'm not sure about other states but in FL you can get a DUI on a skateboard or bicycle etc. If you rigged some training wheels to a refrigerator you could get a DUI in a fridge.

[MJH]

The Ural has a shaft drive, twin sided swing arms with two hydraulic spring shock absorbers.
http://www.imz-ural.com/downloads/br...comparison.pdf

[MJH]

In case you ever wondered how a kit bike can be legal….

2398. Federal Register/Vol. 69, No. 10/Thursday, January 15, 2004/Rules and Regulations


http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2004-01-15/pdf/04-6.pdf

See section IV part G.

Or simply enter “kit” into the search box at the top of the adobe document and hit enter twice.

The government has yet to mandate after market emissions testing on motorcycles, probably never will, so individuals altering or tampering with the emissions go unnoticed, doing so is not considered building your own, however building your own is exempt for any individual for one time, in a lifetime, which is kind of interesting because I really doubt that many if any states that register and title motorcycles have anyway to record that one time exemption. In all realty converting a dirt bike to a street bike can or could be considered a kit build. There are certainly states allowing it, which is illegal since the emissions standards for on and off highway are different. But there is the one time kit build…..so who knows.

I emailed the NHSTA and asked what regulations cover a kit built motorcycle ? I am so interested to hear how disconnected they are from the EPA and its one time kit built exemption.

Through my research I have found an unsettling if not bizarre disconnection between not only federal agencies but between each state and existing federal regulations. The later are or can be called highest order, states can add laws but they cannot discount federal laws, they can only supersede them as in being stricter.

My concern is that some are selling kits…and other then just riding the kit bike illegally with illegal plates and no insurance…how does the process of legally titling and plating go?

I am going to go out on limb here, I would say that the kit bike seller is the manufacture and they issue an MSO with a VIN and also a decal stating the kit bike meets all FMVSS. As far as them being EPA conforming they do not have to be and the register then expires their one time EPA special exemption.

I will also likely get a divert and deflect response from the NHSTA….depends on if the person that gets the email actually has any real knowledge?

[MJH]

FYM 5R Motors (GUANGZHO) Co., Limited
Guangzhou Panyu Huanan Motors Group

http://www.5rmotor.com
http://www.hnmoto.com
http://www.hnmoto.com


Same company has more then one website, not ideal.

Huanan Group

Not entirely sure how big this group actually is but they may actually be one that includes, I believe Wuyang - Honda Motors (Guangzhou) Co., Ltd.
http://en.wuyangmotor.com/newEbiz1/E...tml/index.html

Wuyang ranks 12th in overall sales for 2011 with 900,099 units. They however the two are listed under different names.

15th Panyu 213,293 units and 20th overall with 368,805 units
22nd Wuyang 167,491 units and 12th overall 900,099 units.

Not sure but I think that this group in particular is very large, if it is some how associated with Guangzhou Jin Hao Motorcycle Co., Ltd is unclear…there may be some redundant counting of sales. Jin Hao is listed at 4th largest exporter with 585,682 unit and 14th in overall sales at 695,758, for being that large it is not visible in its marketing.

Then there is Guangzhou Motors Group Company also listed at 23rd with 358,928 total sales. Which list Wuyang on its website….it begins to looks like sales counts may be redundant.
http://www.gzmotors.com/english/subordinate.jsp?cid=353

[MJH]

Here is a query on the EPA Data, it not a database because it violates rules on normalization. Its a list.
The query asks for any OEM that has JON in that field.

Since the EPA does not utilize the WMI to identify a manufacturer, then manual searches have to be done.

If say the VIN number was utilized then the query would be normal, as in search for the WMI. Then for example if a person entered a VIN it would search the database and find all certified vehicles. You should or would then see your model listed.

Manufacuter Name	Engine OEM MFR	Vehicle OEM MFR	Engine Displacment(S)	Models Certified
Shenke USA, Inc.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd	244	YY250T, YY250T-12, YY250T-19, YY250T-2, YY250T-2A, YY250T-3, YY250T-4, YY250T-5, YY250T-6, YY250T-7, YY250T-8
Shenke USA, Inc.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd	150	YY150T, YY150T-10, YY150T-12, YY150T-19, YY150T-2, YY150T-21, YY150T-28, YY150T-3, YY150T-30, YY150T-5, YY150T-7, YY150T-8
Shenke USA, Inc.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co.,Ltd	49	YY50QT-10, YY50QT-12, YY50QT-16, YY50QT-21, YY50QT-28, YY50QT-29, YY50QT-3, YY50QT-30, YY50QT-5, YY50QT-6, YY50QT-7, YY50QT-8
Jonway Motorcycle (USA) Co., Ltd.	ZHEJIANG JONWAY MOTORCYCLE MANUFACTURING CO LTD	ZHEJIANG JONWAY MOTORCYCLE MANUFACTURING CO LTD	244	YY250T, YY250T-12, YY250T-19, YY250T-2, YY250T-2A, YY250T-8
Jonway Motorcycle (USA) Co., Ltd.	ZHEJIANG JONWAY MOTORCYCLE MFG CO LTD	ZHEJIANG JONWAY MOTORCYCLE MFG CO LTD	150	YY150T, YY150T-10, YY150T-12, YY150T-19, YY150T-2, YY150T-21, YY150T-28, YY150T-29, YY150T-3, YY150T-30, YY150T-4, YY150T-5, YY150T-7, YY150T-8
Jonway Motorcycle (USA) Co., Ltd.	ZHEJIANG JONWAY MOTORCYCLE MFG CO LTD	ZHEJIANG JONWAY MOTORCYCLE MFG CO LTD	49	YY50QT-10, YY50QT-12, YY50QT-16, YY50QT-21, YY50QT-28, YY50QT-29, YY50QT-3, YY50QT-30, YY50QT-5, YY50QT-6, YY50QT-7, YY50QT-8
Jonway Motorcycle (USA) Co., Ltd.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd.		YY200, YY200-2, YY200-3, YY250, YY250-2, YY250-3
Jonway Motorcycle (USA) Co., Ltd.	Qingqi Group Ningbo Rhon Motorcycle Co., Ltd.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd.	49	YY50QT-10A, YY50QT-12A, YY50QT-19A, YY50QT-21A, YY50QT-28A, YY50QT-29A, YY50QT-30A, YY50QT-3A, YY50QT-5A, YY50QT-6A, YY50QT-7A, YY50QT-8A
Jonway Motorcycle (USA) Co., Ltd.	Qingqi Group Ningbo Rhon Motorcycle Co., Ltd.	Zhejiang Jonway Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd.	49	YY50QT-10A, YY50QT-12A, YY50QT-19A, YY50QT-21A, YY50QT-28A, YY50QT-29A, YY50QT-30A, YY50QT-3A, YY50QT-5A, YY50QT-6A, YY50QT-7A, YY50QT-8A

[MJH]

The primary rule of normalization is that there are primary fields in each table.

Tables are like filling cabinets and the primary field is the index. Secondary indexes are references to other tables were that secondary filed then becomes primary. The result is normalization and relational integrity.

Indexed fields are primary or secondary, primary in they must exist in each table for instance the VIN is primary in a table of models that share all of the same characters except the trailing characters that represent the series. For example: L8Y********(000001-999999) were the last six characters are the production run in series. The middle character string defines details within it.

ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/mfrmail/ORG2058.pdf

This is not good example because this submission actually violates the regulations. The regulation requires a check digit field, its missing. Character 9 should have a check digit field. The submission should have been rejected….it was.

A solution to the debauchery would be a data entry form that offered the characters up to be defined. Then for each model manufactured there is a complete list. A list based on the VIN characters forming unique strings.

Selecting the WMI then defining the characters definitions, just as the submission does however if done electronically it would not allow violations to the regulations, the submission above was from 2006 and the last from 2009 rectifies the error in the previous.

ftp://ftp.nhtsa.dot.gov/mfrmail/ORG5393.pdf

Sections of a VIN can be defined, but each station of a character is primary as 1,2,3...they become a set of 1which is the WMI. Just as characters 12-17 represent a set 2 which represents a sequential production number.

The field definitions define a table the primary key or index is the WMI it has fields that sefine it in sections, the actual VIN numbers, having that would allow a web portal that when entering a VIN the results would or could generate links to associated data to that model. Parts lists, inventory locations, diagrams and servicing documents, etc.

The factory is the primary source, it must manage the data input, not doing so results in a disconnection in the value chain. The data if entered and maintained diligently becomes universally utilized across all functional levels of the chain. .

[MJH]

I queried the NHSTA data, asking for a count on the field product type that contained the word “motorcycle” the results were unsettling.

The count represents the number of times that specific string of characters were used to define a Product type.
The assortment demonstrate a total lack of data entry protocol.




Product Type
2, 3 & 4 vehicle motorcycle Count 1
3 - Wheel Motorcycle Count 1
3 Wheel Motorcycle Count 1
3 Wheel Motorcycles Count 3
3 Wheeled Motorcycle Count 3
3-Wheel Motorcycle Count 1
All-Season Motorcycle Vehicle Count 1
American Hybrid Motorcycles Count 1
Atv Rec Vehicle,Scooter, Motorcycle Count 1
ATV, Electric Bicycle Count 1
ATV, Electric ATV, Scooter, Motorcycle Count 1
ATV, Electric Bicycle, Scooter Count 1
ATV, Motorcycle Count 1
ATV, Motorcycle, Scooter Count 3
ATVs, Motorcycles Count 2
ATVs, UTVs, Motorcycles, Tractors Count 1
Boat & Motorcycle Trailers Count 1
Boat And Motorcycle Trailers Count 1
Boat, Utility & Motorcycle Trailers Count 2
Bullet Motorcycles Count 2
Cargo Motorcycle & Utility Trailers Count 1
Cargo Trailers For Motorcycles Count 1
Carrier-tricycle, electric vehicle Count 1
CDI 125 Ariana, Motorcycles Four stroke Count 1
CDI 125 Shabab (157 FMI) Motorcycle Four Stroke Count 1
CG Motorcycles Count 1
Class I Motorcycles Count 1
Complete Motorcycles Count 1
Cosmos Scooters & Motorcycles Count 1
Coyote And Scorpion Motorcycles Count 3
Custom Cycles Count 1
Custom Made Motorcycles Count 1
Custom Motorcycles Count 8
Cycles Count 1
Cycles, Snowmobiles & Utility Trlrs Count 1
Cyclomoteurs Motocyclettes Count 1
Electric & Hybrid On Road Highway Use Motorcycles Count 1
Electric Bicycle Count 6
Electric Bicycle & Motorbike Count 1
Electric Bicycles Count 5
Electric Bicycles - On-Road Count 1
Electric Cars, Bicycles, Mopeds, Scooters, Power A Count 1
Electric Cars, Trucks, Buses, Bicycles, Mopeds Count 1
Electric motor motorcycles Count 1
Electric Motorcycle Count 6
Electric Motorcycle, electric moped Count 1
Electric Motorcycles Count 2
Electric Powered Vehicle, 3 wheeled motorcycle Count 1
Electric Scooter & Motorcycle Count 1
Electric Scooters & Bicycles Count 1
Electric Three-Wheel Motorcycles Count 1
Electric Tricycle Count 1
Electric Tricycle - Category L2 Count 2
Electric, Gas, Hybrid Scooters and Motorcycles Count 1
Electrical Motorcycle Count 1
Electric-Assisted Bicycle Count 1
Electronic Scooter - Motorcycle Count 1
Four-Wheeled ATVs, Motorcycles Count 1
Four-wheeled motorcycles (Quad's) Count 1
Frames - Motorcycle Count 1
Honda Motorcycles Count 1
Incomplete Motorcycles Count 2
Independent Motorcycles Count 1
JZR Tricycles Count 1
Light Quadricycles Count 1
Light Weight Motorcycle Count 1
Lightweight Electric Motorcycle Count 1
Low Speed Vehicles - Electric Bicycle Count 1
Luggage Trailers For Motorcycles Count 1
Mini Motor Cycles Count 1
Moped Motor Driven Cycle Count 1
Moped, Motorcycle Count 1
Moped/Motorcycle Count 1
Moped-Electric Motor Driven Cycle Count 1
Mopeds & Motorcycles Count 2
Mopeds & Motorcycles, ATVs Count 1
Mopeds and Tricycles Count 4
Mopeds, Motorcycles Count 1
Mopeds, Motorcycles & Cycles Count 1
Mopeds, Motorcycles & Scooters Count 1
Mopeds, Motorcycles, scooters & 3-wheelers Count 1
Motocycle Count 4
Motocycle, ATV, MIN Car Count 1
Motocycles Count 8
Motocyclette Count 4
Motocyclettes Count 3
Motocyclettes Trial 250 A 280 M3 Count 1
Motor Cycle Count 1
Motor Cycles Count 1
Motor Driven Cycle Count 4
Motor Driven Cycles Count 1
Motor quadricycle category LE Count 1
motor quadricycle category R Count 1
Motor Scooters & Motorcycles Count 1
Motor Tricycle Count 1
Motor Tricycle - Category 5 Count 1
Motor Tricycle - Category L5 Count 3
Motor tricycles - L2, L5l Count 1
Motor tricycles - L5 Count 2
Motorbicycle V1000 Hesketh Count 1
Motorcycle Count 282
Motor-Cycle Count 3
Motorcycle - Complete, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycle - Complete Count 1
Motorcycle - Complete Street Use Count 1
Motorcycle - Complete, Street-Use Count 5
Motorcycle - Electric Count 1
Motorcycle - Kit, Complete, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycle & Jet Ski Trailers Count 4
Motorcycle & Snowmobile Trailers Count 1
Motorcycle / Gas Scooter Count 1
Motorcycle and Moped Count 3
Motorcycle Bodies Count 1
Motorcycle Camping Trailer Count 1
Motorcycle Cargo Trailer Count 1
Motorcycle Cargo Trailers Count 1
Motorcycle- Complete Count 1
Motorcycle For Street Use Only Count 1
Motorcycle For Street-Use Only Count 5
Motorcycle frame Count 1
Motorcycle Frames Count 9
Motorcycle Frames & Engines Count 1
Motorcycle Lite Count 1
Motorcycle Moped Motor-Driven Cycle Count 1
Motorcycle Or Sm Car Trailers Count 1
Motorcycle Street Bike Count 1
Motorcycle trailer Count 6
Motorcycle Trailers Count 23
Motorcycle With Side Car Count 1
Motorcycle, 3 wheel Count 1
Motorcycle, ATV Count 16
Motorcycle, ATV, Electric Bicycle Count 1
Motorcycle, electric Count 1
Motorcycle, Moped Count 14
Motorcycle, Moped, All-Terrain Vehicle (ATV) Count 1
Motorcycle, Moped, three & four wheeled Count 1
Motorcycle, Mopeds Count 1
Motorcycle, Mopeds, ATV Count 2
Motorcycle, motor driven scooters - Street-Use onl Count 1
Motorcycle, Motor-Driven cycle Count 1
Motorcycle, Motor-Driven cycle, Electric Count 2
Motorcycle, quadricycle Count 1
Motorcycle, Scooter Count 1
Motorcycle, Scooter, Dirt Bike Count 1
Motorcycle, street-use Count 10
Motorcycle, three-wheel Count 1
Motorcycle, Three-Wheeled Motorcycle and Moped Count 1
Motorcycle, three-wheeled motorcycles, four-wheele Count 1
Motorcycle, Tri-Wheel Vehicle Count 3
Motorcycle,Moped,Three-Wheeled Veh Count 1
Motorcycle,Sportsbike,Atv,Go-Cart Count 1
Motorcycle/Cargo Trailer Count 1
Motorcycle/Moped Count 1
Motorcycle/Motor driver cycle Count 1
Motorcycle/Scooter Count 1
Motorcycles Count 765
Motor-Cycles Count 1
Motorcycles Nostalgic Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - street use only Count 1
Motorcycles - American-Made Custom Count 1
Motorcycles - CG 125 and other type of 4 stroke Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete Count 14
Motorcycles - Complete - Street Use Count 2
Motorcycles - Complete Custom Count 6
Motorcycles - Complete Street Use Count 3
Motorcycles - Complete Street-Legal Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete- Street-Use Count 2
Motorcycles - Complete Street-Use Count 23
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-use Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, On-Road Touring Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street- Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street- Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Uae Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Ue Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Count 875
Motorcycles - Complete, street-use - small Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Choppers Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Diesel Count 2
Motorcycles - Complete, street-use electric Count 3
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Kits Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Only Count 18
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Reverse Trikes Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Trikes Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete, street-use, frames, compon Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete,Sstreet-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Complete,Street-Use Count 2
Motorcycles - Complete-street use trikes Count 1
Motorcycles - Custom Count 21
Motorcycles - Custom For Street Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Custom Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Custom V-Twin Count 1
Motorcycles - Custom, Complete Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Custom, street-use Count 1
Motorcycles - Custom-Built Count 1
Motorcycles - Electric Count 3
Motorcycles - Electric Motor-Driven Count 1
Motorcycles - Electric, Three-Wheel Count 2
Motorcycles - Electrical Count 2
Motorcycles - For Street Use Only Count 1
Motorcycles - Kit Count 1
Motorcycles - Kits for complete on-road use Count 1
Motorcycles - L1 Count 1
Motorcycles - L1, L3 Count 1
Motorcycles - L3 Count 3
Motorcycles - L5 Count 1
Motorcycles - Off-road Count 2
Motorcycles - Scomadi & TNG Count 1
Motorcycles - Scooters, street-use only Count 1
Motorcycles - Slammer, Ranger, Teja Count 1
Motorcycles - Slammer, Teja Count 1
Motorcycles - Small Count 1
Motorcycles - Small Complete, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Small Electric Count 1
Motorcycles - Special Construction Count 1
Motorcycles - Street Count 3
Motorcycles - Street Ready Count 2
Motorcycles - Street Use Count 2
Motorcycles - Street use only Count 2
Motorcycles - Street-Use Count 5
Motorcycles - Street-Use Only Count 6
Motorcycles - Three-Wheel Count 3
Motorcycles - Three-wheel electric Count 2
Motorcycles - Three-Wheeled Count 2
Motorcycles - Three-Wheeled Trikes Count 1
Motorcycles - Three-Wheeled, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles - Three-wheeled, street-use only Count 1
Motorcycles - Three-Wheelers Count 1
Motorcycles - Trikes Count 1
Motorcycles - two & three & four vehicle Count 2
Motorcycles - Two vehicle Count 1
Motorcycles - V-Twin chopper Count 1
Motorcycles - V-Twin chopper Style Count 1
Motorcycles & Bicycles Count 1
Motorcycles & its part/accessories Count 1
Motorcycles & Mopeds Count 4
Motorcycles & Motor-driven Cycles Count 2
Motorcycles & Motor-driven Cycles - Complete, Stre Count 1
Motorcycles & Quadricicucos Count 1
Motorcycles & Scooters Count 3
Motorcycles & Scooters - Complete, On-Road Use Count 1
Motorcycles & Scooters - Complete, Street-Use Count 3
Motorcycles & Scooters - Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles & Scooters/Street Count 2
Motorcycles & Trikes - Complete, Street-Use Count 2
Motorcycles & Trimobiles-Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles & Vehicles Count 3
Motorcycles (Folding Motor Bike) Count 1
Motorcycles (Kit) - Complete, street-use Count 1
Motorcycles (Mopeds) Count 1
Motorcycles (Scooters) Count 1
Motorcycles (Three-Wheeled) Count 1
Motorcycles (Trikes) Count 1
Motorcycles / Scooters Count 1
Motorcycles And 3-Wheelers Count 2
Motorcycles And Mopeds Count 2
Motorcycles and Passenger Cars Count 1
Motorcycles and Scooters Count 1
Motorcycles and Spare parts Count 1
Motorcycles Complete Street Use Count 2
Motorcycles for street use Count 13
Motorcycles For Street Use Only Count 12
Motorcycles For Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles For Street-Use Cycles Count 1
Motorcycles For Street-Use Only Count 10
Motorcycles(two & three wheelers) Count 1
Motorcycles, 200cc Count 1
Motorcycles, 3 wheels Count 1
Motorcycles, 3-wheel Count 1
Motorcycles, All Terrain Vehicle Count 1
Motorcycles, All Terrain Vehicles & Light Vehicles Count 1
Motorcycles, ATVs Count 1
Motorcycles, Automobiles and Road Vehicles Count 1
Motorcycles, Complete Street-use Count 2
Motorcycles, custom, special construction Count 1
Motorcycles, electric Count 2
Motorcycles, L1 Count 1
Motorcycles, Moped Count 1
Motorcycles, Mopeds Count 4
Motorcycles, Mopeds, Bicycles Count 1
Motorcycles, Mopeds, Motor Bicycles Count 4
Motorcycles, Mopeds, Motor Bikes Count 1
Motorcycles, Mopeds, street-use Count 2
Motorcycles, motorcycle based tricycles Count 2
Motorcycles, Off-Road,On-Road, Dual Count 1
Motorcycles, personal vehicles, cargo vehicles, tr Count 1
Motorcycles, reverse trike Count 2
Motorcycles, Scooters Count 3
Motorcycles, Scooters & ATV'S Count 2
Motorcycles, Scooters, ATVs Count 1
Motorcycles, Steed John original bobber Count 1
Motorcycles, street use Count 5
Motorcycles, street-use Count 93
Motorcycles, street-use customs Count 1
Motorcycles, street-use only Count 1
Motorcycles, street-use, 2-3 wheel Count 1
Motorcycles, street-use, cruiser Count 1
Motorcycles, Street-use, electric Count 1
Motorcycles, Three Wheeler, ATVs Count 1
Motorcycles, three, four and light quadricycles Count 1
Motorcycles, Three-wheelers and ATVs Count 1
Motorcycles, trailers Count 4
Motorcycles, Trikes and Mini's - Complete, Street- Count 1
Motorcycles, Two, threet and four wheel Count 1
Motorcycles, various Count 1
Motorcycles, V-twin engine Count 1
Motorcycles, water Count 1
Motorcycles, water, Passenger Car Count 1
Motorcycles/ Mopeds/ Sco0ters Count 1
Motorcycles/Mopeds Count 2
Motorcycles-Complete Custom Street Count 1
Motorcycles-Complete On-Road 4 Cyli Count 1
Motorcycles-complete street use Count 1
Motorcycles-Complete Street-Ready Count 1
Motorcycles-Complete, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcycles-Small Complete,Street-U Count 1
Motorcycles-Three-Wheel Street Use Count 1
Motorcycles-Three-Wheel, Street-Use Count 1
Motorcyclettes Count 1
Motor-Driven Cycle Count 2
Motor-driven cycle (motorized bicycle) Count 1
Motor-Driven Cycles Count 1
Motor-Driven Cycles - Street-use only Count 2
Motor-Driven Cycles, Street-Use Count 1
Motorocycles - Complete, Street-Use Count 3
Motos Quadricycles Count 1
MVK Motorcycles Count 1
O1-O2 Trailers Motorcycles Count 1
Off Road 3-Wheel Motorcycle Count 1
Passenger Car, Motorcycles Count 1
Passenger Vehicle Electric Motorcycles and Scooter Count 1
quad bike, motorcycle Count 1
Quadricycle Lourd Count 1
Quadricycles Count 4
Quadricycles Legers et Lourds Count 1
Quadricycles Lourds Count 1
Quadricycles, Trailers Count 1
Recreational Vehicle (Motorcycle) Count 1
Refuse Containers & Recycle Trailer Count 2
Rubber Glyde, Pana Glyde Motorcycle Count 1
Scooter & Motorcycle Count 1
Scooter (Moped) Motorcycles, ATV & Quads and Go-Ka Count 2
Scooter (Mopeds), Motorcycles, ATV, Quads, Go-Kart Count 1
Scooter, Electric Bicycle, ATV Count 1
Scooter, Motorcycle Count 2
Scooter/Motorcycle Count 1
Scooters & Tricycles - Electric Count 1
Scooters, Mopeds, Motorcycles Count 2
Scooters, Motorcycles Count 2
Scooters, Motor-cycles and Quads Count 1
Scooters, Motorcycles, All Terrain Vehicles Count 1
Scooters/Mopeds/Motorcycles Count 1
Scorpion Motorcycles Count 1
Side Cars Et Tricycles a Moteur Count 1
SMC Motorcycles, Scooters, ATVs, UVs, RVs, Karts, Count 1
Snowmobile & Motorcycle Trailers Count 1
Sport Motorcycle - Category L3 Count 1
Street Motorcycles Count 1
Street Motorcycles, electric powered three-wheeler Count 1
Three Wheel Motorcycle Count 3
Three Wheel Motorcycles Count 2
Three Wheeled Motorcycle Count 3
Three Wheeled Motorcycle, street-use Count 1
Three wheeled motorcycles Count 4
Three Wheeler Motorcycles Count 1
Three Wheelers, Motorcycles Count 1
Three-Wheel Motorcycles Count 2
Three-Wheel Trikes And Motorcycles Count 1
Three-Wheeled Motorbicycle Count 1
Three-Wheeled Motorcycle Count 1
Three-Wheeled Motorcycles Count 3
Three-Wheeler Motorcycle Count 1
Time Warp Motorcycles Count 1
Tractors & Motorcycles Count 1
Trailer For Boat,Camp,Motorcycle Count 1
Trailer For Load, Motorcycle,& Boat Count 1
Trailer For Motorcycle Count 2
Trailer, motorcycle Count 1
Trailer, Motorcycle, Cycle-car, automobile Count 1
Trailer/Camper Pulled Behind Mcycle Count 1
Trailer-Mounted Sheetrock Recyclers Count 1
Trailers - Aluminum Motorcycle Count 1
Trailers - Boat, Motorcycles & Load Count 1
Trailers - Boat,Load & Motorcycle Count 1
Trailers - Cargo For Motorcycles Count 2
Trailers - Custom Motorcycle Count 2
Trailers - Enclosed Motorcycle Count 1
Trailers - For Hauling Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers - for motorcycle transport Count 1
Trailers - Livestock & Motorcycle Count 1
Trailers - Motorcycle Count 14
Trailers - Motorcycle & Small Car Count 1
Trailers - Motorcycle Cargo Count 1
Trailers - Motorcycle Hauling Count 1
Trailers - Motorcycle Pop-Up Camper Count 1
Trailers - Motorcycle Transport Count 2
Trailers - Motorcycle-Hauling Count 1
Trailers - Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers - Open, Motorcycle Count 1
Trailers - Pontoon & Cycle Count 1
Trailers - Pwc & Motorcycle Count 1
Trailers - Small Motorcycle Count 5
Trailers - Small, Motorcycle Count 6
Trailers - Specific For Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers - To Haul Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers - Utility & Motorcycle Count 2
Trailers - Waste Recycle Count 1
Trailers (Motorcycles) Count 1
Trailers and Motorcycles Count 2
Trailers For Boat, Motorcycles,Load Count 1
Trailers For Boat,Motorcycles,Camp Count 1
Trailers For Boats,Motorcycles, Etc Count 1
Trailers For Boats,Motorcycles,Camp Count 1
Trailers For Camping,Motorcycle,Etc Count 1
Trailers For Camping,Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers For Load And Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers For Load, Motorcycles,Boat Count 1
Trailers For Motocycles Count 1
Trailers For Motorcycle, Load&Boat Count 1
Trailers For Motorcycles Count 4
Trailers For Motorcycles And Camp Count 1
Trailers For Motorcycles,Boat,Load Count 1
Trailers For Motorcycles,Boats,Etc Count 1
Trailers O1, O2, motor cycles Count 1
Trailers To Haul Motorcycles Count 1
Trailers, motorcycle Count 1
Trailers, motorcycle cargo Count 1
Trailers, side-cars for motorcycles and scooters Count 1
Trailers, single-wheel motorcycle Count 1
Trailers, tow behind motorcycles Count 1
Trailers-Small Enclosed Motorcycle Count 1
Tricke-Quadricycles Count 1
Tricycle Count 1
Tricycle (Off-Road) Count 1
Tricycle, Peel Count 1
Tricycles Count 2
Tricycles A Moteur Count 2
Trike/Motorcycle Count 1
Trikes - Three-Wheel Motorcycles Count 1
Trikes (Motor Tricycles) Count 1
Trikes (Three-Wheeled Motorcycles) Count 1
Trikes and Motorcycles - Complete, Street-Use Count 2
Two & three & four vehicle motorcycle Count 3
Two & Three Wheel Motorcycles Count 1
Two and three vehicle motorcycles Count 1
Two vehicle motorcycle Count 6
Two vehicle motorcycles Count 1
Two wheel Motorcycles Count 1
Two Wheeler (Motor Cycle & Moped) Count 1
Two Wheelers (Motor Cycle & Moped) Count 2
Two, Three & Four Vehicle Motorcycle Count 1
Two, three and four vehical motorcycles Count 1
Two, Three and Four Vehicle Motorcycle Count 2
Two, three and four vehicle motorcycles Count 10
Two, Three and Four wheel motorcycle Count 2
Two, three and four wheel motorcycles Count 1
Two, three, four vehicle motorcycle Count 1
Two-Wheel Electric Cycle Count 1
Types of Motorcycles Count 2
Zee-Chariot (motorcycles) Count 1
Grand Count 2881

This is what is backing up the SAE and its role of registering manufactures around the world. This is their database. Its disturbing that they have no valid way to count the number of motorcycle manufactures. They haphazardly enter data that pertains to a product description without any standard categories.

The data needs a drop down list and also a subcategory list…there are many ways to manage the registry and they are not doing it.

[MJH]

Motorcycle exhaust emission limits

CHINA

PRC Emissions limits (g / km)
(CO) emissions (HC) emissions(Nox) emissions

Three Categories
Two Wheeled
<150 mL (UDC) (2.0) (0.8) (0.15)
> 150 mL (UDC + EUDC) (2.0) (0.3) (0.15)

Three-wheeled motorcycle
(UDC) (4.0) (1.0) (0.25)

Note: the UDC: refers to the ECE R40 test cycle model, including all six urban cycle model exhaust emissions measurement, sampling began Time T = 0. 2, the UDC + EUDC: refers to the maximum speed of 90km / h the ECE R40 + EUDC test cycle models, including urban and suburban full circle Model of the exhaust pollutants measurement, sampling start time T = 0

UNITED STATES

USA Emissions limits (g / km)
(HC)emissions (CO) emissions
Category
Class II
<280 (1) (12)

USA Emissions limits (g / km)
(HC+Nox) (CO)
Category III
>280 (0.8) (12)

Direct comparison
China Carbon Monoxide limit is 2 g/km the USA is 12 g/km across all displacements.
China is regulating Hydrocarbons and Nitrous Oxide separately where as the USA does not they offer a combined limit, the combined limit in the USA for a full sized motorcycle is 0.8 g/km…in the PRC it would be .45 g/km for a full sized motorcycle, 0.95 for under 150cc. and 1.5 for a three wheeled vehicle.

Bascially testing is done on testing different ranges of driving then averaging those to determine an overall average.

The 2g/km can be used as a litmus test, the question being how many motorycles currently certified for on Highway can meet the PRC limit of under 2g/km?
Simple query on Certification Level - CO as a criteria of <2 on 885 certificates issued for 2012. The results were that 214 meet the less then 2g/km limit on Carbon Monoxide emission…roughly about 24% of the models currently certified in the USA meet that limit the other 76% do not.
Of the 214 there are 101 that are over 500cc, these are those models. Since the testing methods vary and the other emissions not considered, these only represent potential prospects for being certifiable in the China market.

Certification Level - CO	Engine Displacment(S)	Models Certified
1	1679	VMX17BB, VMX17BCB
1	1679	VMX17BB, VMX17BCB
1	998	FZS10BCW (FZ1), FZS10BW (FZ1)
0.7	779	FZ8NBG (FZ8), FZ8SBB (FZ8), FZ8SBW (FZ8)
0.7	779	FZ8NBCG (FZ8), FZ8NBG (FZ8), FZ8SBB (FZ8), FZ8SBW (FZ8)
0.7	779	FZ8NBCG (FZ8), FZ8NBG (FZ8), FZ8SBB (FZ8), FZ8SBW (FZ8)
0.7	779	FZ8NBCG, FZ8NBG, FZ8S, FZ8SC
1.2	599	YZFR6BB (R6), YZFR6BCB (R6), YZFR6BCL (R6), YZFR6BCW (R6), YZFR6BL (R6), YZFR6BW (R6)
1.8	530	XP500BW
1.8	530	XP500BW
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville 110th Anniversary Edition, Bonneville SE, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville 110th Anniversary Edition, Bonneville SE, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville SE, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville SE, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville SE, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville SE, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton
0.9	999	GSX-R1000
0.9	638	AN650A
1.6	1151	Griso 1200 8V, Griso 1200 8V SE
1	1064	California 90, California Black Eagle
1.8	999	RSV4 Factory, RSV4 R
0.7	1043	VERSYS 1000
1.6	1832	GOLD WING
0.7	998	CB1000R, CB1000R ABS
1.9	745	Shadow Aero, Shadow Phantom, Shadow RS, Shadow Spirit 750
1.8	582	Silver Wing ABS
1.1	1099	Streetfighter, Streetfighter S
1	1079	Hypermotard 1100ev, Hypermotard1100eSP
1.1	1079	Monster1100evo ABS
1.1	849	Streetfighter 848
1.1	849	Streetfighter 848
0.6	849	848 evo Corse SE, 848evo
0.6	849	848 evo Corse SE, 848evo
0.6	849	848evo
0.6	849	848evo
1.3	803	Monster 796, Monster 796 ABS
1.5	1293	K1300GT, K1300R, K1300S
1.1	1170	R1200GS Adventure, R1200R, R1200RT, R120GS
1.1	1170	R1200GS Adventure, R1200R, R1200RT, R120GS
0.7	999	S1000RR
0.4	798	F650GS, F800GS, F800R, F800ST
0.6	652	G650GS, G650GS Sertao
1.2	1198	DB8, DB8S
1	1679	VMX17, VMX17ACG, VMX17AG, VMX17C
1	1679	VMX17, VMX17C, VMXACG, VMXAG
1	1679	VMX17, VMX17C
1	998	FZ1-S, FZ1-SC
0.7	779	FZ8-N, FZ8-NC, FZ8-S, FZ8-SC
1.2	599	YZF-R6, YZF-R6C
0.4	999	Go-4 Interceptor III
0.4	999	Go-4 Interceptor III
0.4	999	Go-4 Interceptor III
0.4	999	Go-4 Interceptor III
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville Sixty, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton, Thruxton SE
1.9	865	America, Bonneville, Bonneville Sixty, Bonneville T100, Scrambler, Speedmaster, Thruxton, Thruxton SE
1.7	999	GSX-R1000
0.9	638	AN650, AN650A
1.5	1247	1250sc
1.9	1151	STELVIO 1200 4V, STELVIO 1200 NTX, STELVIO1200 4V ABS, STELVIO1200NTX ABS
1.9	1151	STELVIO 1200 4V, STELVIO 1200 NTX, STELVIO1200 4V ABS, STELVIO1200NTX ABS
1.6	1151	GRISO 1200 8V, GRISO 1200 8V SE
1	1064	..1100 Aquila Nera, ..1100 Black Eagle, California 1100 Classic, California 1100 Touring, California 1100 Vintage
1	1064	..1100 Aquila Nera, ..1100 Black Eagle, California 1100 Classic, California 1100 Touring, California 1100 Vintage
1.7	998	TUONO 1000 R, TUONO 1000 R FACTORY
1.7	998	TUONO 1000 R, TUONO 1000 R FACTORY
0.9	998	F4
0.7	600	SM 630, SMS 630, TE 630
0.7	998	CB1000R, CB1000R ABS
1.9	745	Shadow Aero, Shadow Phantom, Shadow RS, Shadow Spirit 750
0.8	680	NT700V, NT700V ABS
1.8	582	Silver Wing, Silver Wing ABS
0.7	1198	1198, 1198R Corse SE, 1198R double seat, 1198R single seat, 1198S Corse SE, 1198SP double seat, 1198SP single seat
0.7	1198	1198, 1198R Corse SE, 1198R double seat, 1198R single seat, 1198S Corse SE, 1198SP double seat, 1198SP single seat
0.7	1198	1198, 1198R Corse SE, 1198R double seat, 1198R single seat, 1198S, 1198S Corse SE
0.7	1198	1198, 1198R Corse SE, 1198R double seat, 1198R single seat, 1198S, 1198S Corse SE
1.1	1099	Streetfighter, Streetfighter S
1	1079	Hypermotard 1100ev, Hypermotard1100eSP
0.6	849	848evo
0.6	849	848evo
1.3	803	Monster 796, Monster 796 ABS
0.6	1600	Family, Low Rider, Mustang
1.5	1293	K1300GT, K1300R, K1300S
1.5	1293	K1300GT, K1300R, K1300S
1.5	1293	K1300GT, K1300S
1.5	1293	K1300GT, K1300S
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200R, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200R, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200R, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200R, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200RT
1.1	1170	R1200GS, R1200GS Adventure, R1200RT
0.7	999	S1000RR
0.7	999	S1000RR
0.7	999	S1000RR
0.7	999	S1000RR
0.4	798	F650GS, F800GS, F800R, F800ST
0.4	798	F650GS, F800GS, F800R, F800ST
0.6	652	G650GS
0.6	652	G650GS

[MJH]

The EPA offered a list of model for 2013 in August of 2012, they now offer the list in an MS Excel spreadsheet format for downloading. The list is early and hopefully will have more models on it then currently it has, because it only has 171 so far and that is quite a bit less then the 885 models on the 2012 list.

I can only guess what the very low number represents, manufactures only submit for models they offer for that model year, they have in the past offered a prior year as a current year, but that is kind of questionable since the VIN does include a model year. If I bought a 2012 and then later discovered it was actually a 2011 I would not be happy.


I think the EPA is bizarre they have no standards for the databases they release, no standard formatting or release dates? The list they published in 2012 for 2013 has to be incomplete, but when do they add the new vehicles? There are no regulation on the regulators and there should be.


Seems entirely possible for a manufacture to have an EPA certificate and not be on the list from August 2012. That could hurt a new manufacturer attempting to establish business partners, it also creates a gray area for some to claim they have an EPA certificate when they may or may not, forcing any inquiry to be made to the EPA and in faith? That forcing people to open the box of debauchery called the Federal EPA.


I am sorry but they only need a database online that allows all application and a status of them accessible online, once again we pay a lot of taxes and really get little to show for it.