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  1. #311 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 
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    Nothing interesting... there may be a chance to see the Longia V-250 out of the Chicago Scooter Company since they have intentions to import some motorcycles.
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    So, "Znen" is "Qingqi's"...

    And "Kymco's" bike "K-Pipe" 125 is with 4V head.
    Ask me nothing - I DO NOT speak english. Really...
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  3. #313 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorge View Post
    So, "Znen" is "Qingqi's"...

    And "Kymco's" bike "K-Pipe" 125 is with 4V head.
    I am not sure what you are reffereing to in the first line.

    ZNEN is the first company in the 2016 list, they supply allot of scooters to the market here.
    Qingqi as a group supplies SSR and CCW for some of their products, ZNEN scooters look identical to some other imported from other companies, they are probably all copies of something once or currenlty in production out of Taiwan.
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    I know that they are making scooters, but I didn't know that they are under the auspices of "Qingqi".
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  5. #315 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorge View Post
    I know that they are making scooters, but I didn't know that they are under the auspices of "Qingqi".
    They are not, that I know of what is making you think they are.
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  6. #316 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 
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    My mistake.

    No "Znen", but "Rhon".

    Or this "Rhon's" is not this big Jinan "Qingqi" we all know...
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  7. #317 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 
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    Jinan uses LAE for its WMI and Rhon L4Y they were all at one time part of the Qingqi Group which was an active holding company, Jinan is part of another called China South Group.

    http://bingodu.com/news/11041.html

    Holding Companies are investment companies, they buy up shares in individual companies, SCG wholly owns Jinan Qingqi. They also own Jialing, Jianshe and Dayun.
    I believe that the acquisition of Jinan Qinqgi was done by force in 2009, due to management improprieties, subsequently the government broke up the Qingqi Group took Jinan and put it under the government ran SCG.
    It is complicated if not convoluted, the original Qingqi Group name remains in use, it was renamed Jinan Dalong and does not have the rights to the brand name “Qingqi” everything is grey, particularly when you see members of the Jinan Dalong using LAE as a WMI to identify their production. The Pioneer and Dalong products both are using that WMI.
    I would say that they separated them financially however strong business ties remain. It is even more complex when you consider a Qingqi factory in Pakistan

    Dalong ranks 16 in the top 50 as of NOV-2015
    No. Enterprise business name called YTD NOV-2015 YTD NOV-2014 Accumulated over the same period
    Growth (%)
    This month cumulative total ratio (%)
    16 Jinan Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. Dalong 304 136 251 445 20.96 1.77
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  8. #318 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 2017 
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    Manufacturer Name Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Sales Area No. of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Models Certified Engine cc EDV Rated Power Power Units
    Alliance Powersports Sanyang Industry Co., Ltd Sanyang Industry Co., Ltd China 49S 1 2 49.5 Mio 50 49 2.8 kW
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    Manufacturer Name Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Sales Area No. of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Models Certified Engine cc EDV Rated Power Power Units
    American Lifan, Inc. Chongqing Lifan Motorcycle Engine Co., Ltd. Jiangmen Qipai Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 50S 1 2 198 KP200, KPR200 198 12.3 kW
    American Lifan, Inc. Chongqing Lifan Motorcycle Engine Co., Ltd. Jiangmen Qipai Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 49S 1 2 149.0 KP mini 150 149 7.8 kW
    American Lifan, Inc. Jiangmen Qipai Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Jiangmen Qipai Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 50S 1 2 149.6 S-Ray 150 150 5.8 kW
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    Manufacturer Name Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Sales Area No. of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Models Engine cc EDV Rated Power Power Units
    AMSTAR MOTOR CORPORATION SANYOU HOLDING GROUP YINYOU MOTORCYCLE CO., LTD. SANYOU HOLDING GROUP YINYOU MOTORCYCLE CO., LTD. China 50S 1 2 150 Amstar Beyond 150, Amstar Blazer 150, Amstar Eagle 150, Amstar Explore 150cc, Amstar Kaiser 150, Amstar Pioneer 150, Amstar Puma 150, Amstar Rock n' Roll 150, Amstar Speedy 150, Amstar Sunny 150, Amstar Valentino 150, SY150T-30 150 5.8 kW
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