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  1. #271 Re: Other interesting…or not…EPA facts. 
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    ID Manufacturer Name Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Models Certified EDV Engine Displacement - cc EDV Rated Power
    360 Wangye USA Co., LLC Zhejiang Taizhou Wangye Power Co.,Ltd. China WY125T-101, WY125T-11, WY125T-12, WY125T-21, WY125T-21(II), WY125T-21(III), WY125T-23(VI), WY125T-23(VII), WY125T-30, WY125T-65, WY125T-74, WY125T-75, WY125T-77, WY125T-9, WY125T-95, WY150T-16, WY150T-18, WY150T-20, WY150T-20(II), WY150T-20(III), WY150T-2 150 5.9
    307 Wangye USA Co., LLC Zhejiang Taizhou Wangye Power Co.,Ltd. China WY50QT-10, WY50QT-101, WY50QT-105, WY50QT-16, WY50QT-16(II), WY50QT-16(III), WY50QT-16(IV), WY50QT-16(V), WY50QT-4, WY50QT-4(III), WY50QT-4(IV), WY50QT-41, WY50QT-53, WY50QT-55, WY50QT-58, WY50QT-6, WY50QT-7, WY50QT-7(IV), WY50QT-7(VI), WY50QT-79, WY50QT- 49 2.4
    306 Wangye USA Co., LLC Zhejiang Taizhou Wangye Power Co.,Ltd. China WY50QT-10, WY50QT-101, WY50QT-105, WY50QT-16, WY50QT-16(II), WY50QT-16(III), WY50QT-16(IV), WY50QT-16(V), WY50QT-4, WY50QT-4(III), WY50QT-4(IV), WY50QT-41, WY50QT-53, WY50QT-55, WY50QT-58, WY50QT-6, WY50QT-7, WY50QT-7(IV), WY50QT-7(VI), WY50QT-79, WY50QT- 49 2.4
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    ID Manufacturer Name Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Models Certified EDV Engine Displacement - cc EDV Rated Power
    362 Yiying Motorcycle Inc. Benzhou Vehicle Industry Group Co.,Ltd. China Yiying YY125T-10, Yiying YY125T-10D, Yiying YY125T-10E, Yiying YY125T-11, Yiying YY125T-19, Yiying YY125T-32, Yiying YY125T-6, Yiying YY125T-6A, Yiying YY150T-10, Yiying YY150T-10E, Yiying YY150T-19, Yiying YY150T-19A, Yiying YY150T-19B, Yiying YY150T-31, 150 7.2
    310 Yiying Motorcycle Inc. Benzhou Vehicle Industry Group Co.,Ltd. China YY50QT, YY50QT-10, YY50QT-15, YY50QT-21, YY50QT-31, YY50QT-6, YY50QT-8 49 2.2
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    Lots of scooters being recertified and/or new brands coming to the US.
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    I see it as “A” scooters and “B” scooters. Some are better made then others.
    Actually many are copies of the real original manufactures models and in different versions, which look exactly the same.

    The A and B come out of different factories, but look the same and the differences are parts used and probably fit and finish.

    I am pretty sure that the ZNEN are the best and they cost more than others that look the same but cost less.

    So they often rename the cheaper versions to hide that, they even change the names of the better to help them to hide the differences.

    I believe that Benzhou Vehicle Industry Group Co.,Ltd., Zhejiang Taizhou Wangye Power Co.,Ltd, and Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Would be the better made and the others are lower cost, the importer of these want to take the business with the lowered cost versions.

    It all dodgy since if they all were sold under a few names then the original could nail them for selling their designs. So we still get lots of brand names and its all dodgy.

    Some have what is their own designs, but in the mess they do not get separated and should. It be good to see a Chinese branded line and with its own designs.

    So you have lots of copies of KYMCO and others designs and some better than others in quality, but some real cagey practices selling them.
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    Yes, I am sure that Znen are the "top of the heap" when it comes to Chinese bikes. SSR, and I think BMS, use Znen as their OEM for scooters. I have heard that Tao Tao (I don't think they have any 2014 models, but did have some on the 2013 list) are supposed to be pretty high quality, as well. Excalibur Motorsports currently use Huatian, which are more well-known in the UK (maybe all over Europe, too), and have decent quality, which is why they carry them (they take price into consideration, combined with quality). Funny enough, they are the primary TMEC 200 Enduro distributor for the US, but don't carry TMEC scooters (which are manufactured by Baotian) due to quality control issues. Baotian are supposed to be entering, or already entered the US market under their own brand name (they might have been on the '13 EPA list), which would leave TMEC to either continue with side by side copies, or they have to find a new OEM (but TMEC were listed on the '14 list under their own name).
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    http://en.zjhuatian.com/ht/home.asp

    Those are from 2013 the HT models are manufactured by LINTEX

    ID Category Certificate No Engine Family Manufacturer Name Engine OEM MFR Engine OEM Country Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Small Volume Manufacturer Type Application Type Sales Area Combustion Cycle No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Fuel Type Engine Displacment(S) Fuel System Type No of Carburetors Other Fuel System Air Aspiration Type Other Air Aspiration Type Air Injection Type Other Air Injection Type Charge Air Cooler Y/N Electronic Control EGR - Y/N Catalytic Converter - Y/N Catalyst Type Models Certified Exhaust Test Procedure Emission Measurement Unit ABT Engine Family Exhaust FEL - HC Exhaust FEL - HC+NOx Exhaust FEL - CO EDV Type EDV Model EDV VIN EDV Engine Code EDV Engine Displacement - cc EDV Rated Power Power Units EDV EIM EDV Rated RPM EDV Road Load Force (N) EDV Transmission Type EDV Transmission - No Speeds EDV N/V Ratio DF Type DF-HC DF-NOX DF-HC+NOX DF-CO Low Hour GHG CO2 Low Hour GHG CH4 Low Hour GHG N2O Certification Level - CO Certification Level - NOx Certification Level - HC Certification Level - HC+NOx Permeation-Tank CBD Y/N Permeation-Fuel Line CBD Y/N Fuel Tank Material
    292 Highway Motorcycle - Ia (<50cc) DLNXC.049LYA-002-R01 DLNXC.049LYA LINTEX SCOOTER CO., LIMITED Zhejiang Lingyu Vehicle Industry Co.,Ltd. China Zhejiang Lingyu Vehicle Industry Co.,Ltd. China NA RC 49S 4 1 2 GAS 49 CARB 1
    NA
    PAIR
    N ICM N Y TWC, single bed, open loop HT50QT-10, HT50QT-16, HT50QT-24, HT50QT-25, HT50QT-29A, HT50QT-36, HT50QT-6, HT50QT-7, HT50QT-9 FTP_C G/KM N


    C/O 25-2500km LJLTCBHM083D00001 49S 49 2.4 kW 180 7500 111 CV 1 196 M 1.101 2.016 1.188 1.317 39.8 0.044 0.002 8.8
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    Their 300cc is made by Xinqyue, those are both 2013 and 2014.
    ID Category Certificate No Engine Family Manufacturer Name Engine OEM MFR Engine OEM Country Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country Small Volume Manufacturer Type Application Type Sales Area Combustion Cycle No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Fuel Type Engine Displacment(S) Fuel System Type No of Carburetors Other Fuel System Air Aspiration Type Other Air Aspiration Type Air Injection Type Other Air Injection Type Charge Air Cooler Y/N Electronic Control EGR - Y/N Catalytic Converter - Y/N Catalyst Type Models Certified Exhaust Test Procedure Emission Measurement Unit ABT Engine Family Exhaust FEL - HC Exhaust FEL - HC+NOx Exhaust FEL - CO EDV Type EDV Model EDV VIN EDV Engine Code EDV Engine Displacement - cc EDV Rated Power Power Units EDV EIM EDV Rated RPM EDV Road Load Force (N) EDV Transmission Type EDV Transmission - No Speeds EDV N/V Ratio DF Type DF-HC DF-NOX DF-HC+NOX DF-CO Low Hour GHG CO2 Low Hour GHG CH4 Low Hour GHG N2O Certification Level - CO Certification Level - NOx Certification Level - HC Certification Level - HC+NOx Permeation-Tank CBD Y/N Permeation-Fuel Line CBD Y/N Fuel Tank Material
    210 Highway Motorcycle - III(>-279cc) DSXPC.300XY4 DSXPC.300XY4 Shanghai Xingyue USA, INC. Zhejiang Xingyue Vehicle Co.Ltd China Zhejiang Xingyue Vehicle Co.Ltd China NA CO 50S 4 1 4 GAS 295 MFI

    NA
    NA
    N ECM N Y TWC, single bed, open loop XY300T-4, XY300T-5 FTP_C G/KM N


    C/O XY300T-4 L4STHNDK572000136 50S 295 16.8 kW 260 7000 127 CV 1 92.8 M 1.219 1.219 1.219 1.212 71.7 0.029 0.008 1.7

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    Most of the chinese scooters are copies of either a SYM or Kymco, they only make them slightly different.
    I doubt that they are ever better than the original, but in some models they certainly look better.

    The BMS Heritage looks very much like a SYM ALLO, but actually nicer.

    But its really difficult to see that others are also selling copies of the same type and for much less.
    This one is a DF sold by Sunny and sells for significantly less.
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    List of vehicles with EPA Certificates for 2015.
    If it is new, as in never been titled, and not on this list then its a 2014 or older model year.


    1)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Sundiro Honda Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Sundiro Honda Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49 METROPOLITAN 2.8 FHNXC0.05ATA-015 American Honda Motor Co., Inc.

    2)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Lifan Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. Lifan Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. China 1 2 150 LF150T-10, LF150T-12, LF150T-12A, LF150T-26, LF150T-26A, LF150T-8, LF150T-9F 5.8 FLFNC.150AAL American Lifan Industry, Inc.

    3)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 150 Miro 150, R-X 150, R8 150, Ves 150, ZN150T-12, ZN150T-18, ZN150T-30A, ZN150T-32, ZN150T-36A, ZN150T-39C, ZN150T-50, ZN150T-5B, ZN150T-7F, ZN150T-7G, ZN150T-7H, ZN150T-9, ZN150T-E, ZN150T-E3, ZN150T-E5, ZN150T-F, ZN150T-G, ZN150T-H, ZN150T-K 6.2 FAMSC0.15MC1-001 Amstar Motors LLC
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 250, 276 ZN250T-10, ZN250T-18, ZN250T-18A, ZN250T-39B, ZN250T-39C, ZN250T-9, ZN250T-B, ZN300T-10, ZN300T-18, ZN300T-18A, ZN300T-39B, ZN300T-39C, ZN300T-9, ZN300T-B 13.5 FAMSC0.28ZNE-002 Amstar Motors LLC

    4)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 49 2012 Sprint, B82, B83, B88, B89, B90, B91, Breeze, Edge, Flash, Havoc49, Scorch, Sprint, Vibe 49cc 2 FGTRC.049ZNE-002 Bintelli LLC
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 150 B85, B86, B87, Havoc, Scorch 150cc, Valor, Vibe 6.2 FGTRC0.15ZNE-001 Bintelli LLC

    5)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 150 BMS Astro 150, BMS BeMine 150, BMS Pinnacle 150, BMS Chelsea 150, BMS Grandprix 150, BMS Heritage 150, BMS Kerrigan T-150, BMS Mediterranean 150, BMS Palazzo 150, BMS Patriot 150, BMS Premier 150, BMS Roman 150, BMS Rosetta DLX 150, BMS The Legend 1 6.2 FBMSC0.15ZNE-001 BMS Motorsports, Inc.
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    6)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Zhejiang Jinlang Engine Co., Ltd. Jiangsu Baodiao Locomotive Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49 BD50QT-12A, BD50QT-14A, BD50QT-18A, BD50QT-20A, BD50QT-25A, BD50QT-26A, BD50QT-27A, BD50QT-28A, BD50QT-2A, BD50QT-9A 2.2 FBMHC.049JLE-001 Boom International Holdings (USA), Inc.

    7)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Zhejiang CFMOTO Power Co., Ltd. Zhejiang CFMOTO Power Co., Ltd. China 2 4 649 650NK, 650TK 45 FCMAC.649M2T-001 CF Moto Powersports, Inc.

    8)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Chongqing Zongshen Power Machinery Co., Ltd. Chongqing Zongshen Automobile Industry Co., Ltd. China 1 4 250 RX3 18.5 FCASC.250RX3-001 CSC Motorcycles, LLC

    9)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    JINAN QINGQI MOTORCYCLE CO., LTD JINAN QINGQI MOTORCYCLE CO., LTD China 1 2 249 QM250-2D, QM250-2X, QM250GY-B, QM250GY-B(A), XTR250 13.5 FDFRC.249GYB-002 Dafier, Inc.
    JINAN QINGQI MOTORCYCLE CO., LTD JINAN QINGQI MOTORCYCLE CO., LTD China 1 2 49 QM50QT-2, QM50QT-6A, QM50QT-6D, QM50QT-6E 2.2 FDFRC.049QQA-001 Dafier, Inc.

    10)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Zhejiang Jiajia Juneng Motorcycle Technology Co., Ltd. Zhejiang Jiajia Juneng Motorcycle Technology Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49 JN50QT-10A, JN50QT-11A, JN50QT-13A, JN50QT-14A, JN50QT-5A, JN50QT-6C, JN50QT-7A, JN50QT-7D, JN50QT-9A 2.2 FDCMC.049QMB-001 DCI Motor (USA) Corporation
    Zhejiang Jiajia Juneng Motorcycle Technology Co., Ltd. Zhejiang Jiajia Juneng Motorcycle Technology Co., Ltd. China 1 2 149 JN150T-10A, JN150T-11A, JN150T-12A, JN150T-14A, JN150T-3C, JN150T-5D, JN150T-6N, JN150T-7D, JN150T-8B 5.8 FDCMC.150QMJ-002 DCI Motor (USA) Corporation
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    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Ningbo Sanjiang Dykon Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Ningbo Sanjiang Dykon Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49.5 JK50QT-21, JK50QT-22, JK50QT-A, JK50QT-B, JK50QT-C, JK50QT-D, JK50QT-E 2.1 FDKNC.049J21-001 Dykon International Motorcycle, LLC.

    12)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 49 Blaze, CF-50, Jet Classic, Lucky, RX-50, V-50, W1 2 FGMWC.049ZNE-001 Hammer Brand, LLC
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 150 Blaze II, EX-150, Jet Classic II, Lucky 2, V-150 6.2 FGMWC0.15ZNE-002-R01 Hammer Brand, LLC
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 150 Blaze II, EX-150, Jet Classic II, Lucky 2, V-150 6.2 FGMWC0.15ZNE-002 Hammer Brand, LLC
    Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. Taizhou Zhongneng Motorcycle Co.,Ltd. China 1 2 49 Blaze, CF-50, Islander, Jet Classic, Lucky, RX-50, V-50, W1 2 FGMWC.049ZNE-001-R01 Hammer Brand, LLC

    13)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Chongqing Huansong Science and Technology Industrial Co., Ltd. Chongqing Huansong Science and Technology Industrial Co., Ltd. China 2 4 249 HS250GS-3 18.5 FHSNC.249MSI-001 Hisun Motors Corp., U.S.A.

    14)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    LONGXIN Guangzhou Panyu Huanan Motors Group Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49 X-MadAss 50 2.0 FEXMC.049MAD-001 Hua Rong International Corp.

    15)
    Engine OEM MFR Vehicle OEM MFR Vehicle OEM Country No of Cylinders Valve per Cylinder Engine Displacment(S) Models Certified EDV Rated Power Certificate No Manufacturer Name
    Cixi Kingring Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Cixi Kingring Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49.3 JL50QT-13, JL50QT-17, JL50QT-18, JL50QT-2, JL50QT-4, JL50QT-5, JL50QT-6, JL50QT-6A, JL50QT-7, JL50QT-8, JL50QT-9, JL50QT-9A 2.3 FJSKC.049JLC Jason Sky Incorporation
    Cixi Kingring Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Cixi Kingring Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 1 2 49.3 JL50QT-13, JL50QT-17, JL50QT-18, JL50QT-2, JL50QT-4, JL50QT-5, JL50QT-6, JL50QT-6A, JL50QT-7, JL50QT-8, JL50QT-9, JL50QT-9A 2.3 FJSKC.049JLC Jason Sky Incorporation
    Cixi Kingring Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Cixi Kingring Motorcycle Co., Ltd. China 1 2 229 JL250-5, JL250-6, JL250-7, JL250-8, JL250-9, JL250P-2, JL250P-3, JL250P-4 11.2 FJSKC.229JLD Jason Sky Incorporation
    I highlighted this simply because the JL250 models all have a 234cc Twin. There are allot of models being sold online with the 229cc single, some being claimed as new arrivals. Also the 50cc model scooter comes up on an internet search a GEELY? CIXI Kingring had imported allot in the past and many are lingering in the market, the JL250 are all old inventory and it may be that other Brands are now using that name? They do not get it falsification of government filings is such a serious crime.
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