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  1. #11 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    They should or may eventually develop variances on the scrapping law, for instance stored and in like new or excellent condition. Eventually someone will address that in the future…the time lines are very long over a decade. I'd say eventually it will get addressed, when an individual is forced to scrap what is obviously collectable.

    There are many variances in other legal systems, the Chinese will eventually if not already develop some. It's just a petitioning processes that bring closer consideration to exceptions to existing laws.
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  3. #13 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    What I can't understand is how a mianbaoche can have a 13 year lifespan, whereas and imported beemer gets 13 years too. Surely a BMW could last a lifetime if you maintained it properly, whereas the average mianbaoche should be scrapped at about 7 years, because they are just garbage.

    Did I read that right? You get 12 million meters for a motorcycle? Which is 12,000 kms? So we have to throw away our motorcycle at the end of each year and buy a new one? Which retread made these rules?
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  4. #14 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZMC888 View Post
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    12万 = 120k 千米=km
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    九)正三轮摩托车行驶10万千米,其他摩托车行驶12万千米

    Humanbeing is right. It's 100,000 km sidecars and for 120,000 km for motorbikes. Damn these vexing Chinese numerical units!

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  6. #16 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    I understood, that there is now no scrappage age for cars, providing they pass all the tests every year.

    Akin to the UK MOT.
    If eventually it can't pass, or too expensive to make it pass, then off it go's to scrap.

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  7. #17 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    OK, in English there is no word for 'wan' meaning Google translate gets confused. Anyhow a hardcore rider on a bigger machine could easily do 120,000 kms in 5 years. Meaning their bike would then fail mandatory inspection?
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  8. #18 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZMC888 View Post
    OK, in English there is no word for 'wan' meaning Google translate gets confused. Anyhow a hardcore rider on a bigger machine could easily do 120,000 kms in 5 years. Meaning their bike would then fail mandatory inspection?
    http://politics.people.com.cn/n/2013...-20196646.html
    第七条国家对达到一定行驶里程的机动车引导报废
    "引导" is the key point ie It's NOT 強制
    High mileage 125 (Need piston/ring at 2??k) http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...authorid=73022
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  9. #19 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    第四条 已注册机动车有下列情形之一的应当强制报废,其所有人应当将机动车交售给报废机动车回收拆解企业,由报废机动车回收拆解企业按规定进行登记、拆解、销毁等处理,并将 报废的机动车登记证书、号牌、行驶证交公安机关交通管理部门注销:

    第七条 机动车达到下列行驶里程,以及自愿报废的机动车,其所有人可以将机动车交售给机动车回收拆解企业,由报废机动车回收拆解企业按规定登记、拆解、销毁,并将报废的机动车登 记证书、号牌、行驶证交公安机关交通管理部门注销:

    Therein lies the difference. If your bike is 13 years old you MUST take it to a scrapper to have it turned into a cube. If your bike has done more than 120,000 KMs you CAN get it scrapped but I'm assuming that you also have the option to keep riding it until it reaches the 13-year limit.
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  10. #20 Re: 强制报废期止 or mandatory scrapping deadline 
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    There's nothing in that text that allows you to keep a bike on the road beyond the 13-year mandatory scrapping deadline. They are slowly introducing a second mileage-related lever for forcing bikes off the road. Right now it's voluntary, but we should all be watching how this evolves.

    Above all, these rules are being made by bureaucrats, and without public hearings or other transparent disclosures we are left only to guess as to how they come up with these "use-by" durations. Give a bureaucrat the power to say "no" and guess what? They say "no."
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