ZONTE

[fizamalik]

Tiger125 Boasting classic custom style, the Zontes Tiger 125 is the perfect learner bike, with a seat height of 725mm.

[fredjaw]

Hello and sorry for late use of this thread.
The Zontes/revatto/Hao Jiang bike I use is now close to 7000 km on clock and rides fine.
I use 17x36 ratio replacing the original 15x38. Much better but could pull longer.
The bike is quite confortable even if very short for me or more critical if you want to ride 2 of us.
Just to bring back in mind it is like a tiger/custom model.
Except gears all is original and I look at chain wear.
Regards.
Fred

[fredjaw]

Hello you all,
I am still riding the Hao-jiang/zontes/Revatto 125 and all Ok (with other bar and much longer ratio (17/36 replacing 15/38). Also add protection on fork and small fairing plus top case.
The bike is now close to 10 000 km and starts to have small problems like irregular operation.
I can deal with but i try to improve and changed the plug from original CPR6E Torch for CR8E from NGK.
Why change type ? It is impossible to find Torch CPR6E or NGK CPR6E in France.
I supposed that this kind of plug is used on most of Chineese made engines like Honda CG clones.
Probably the projected insulator is adapted to this engine and having shorter plug in addition to colder plug make things worse.
Do you know more than me about this ?
Many thanks in advance.
Fred

[culcune]

I have always seen a recommendation for D8EA plugs. I use NGK D8EA, but my bike is a 200cc CG

[fredjaw]

Hello,
Yes but the D8EA is a 12mm thread while the CPR6E or CR8E are 10mm thread.
I see the thermal index 6 as relatively Hot and the P means the plug is pushed forward in the combustion chamber. All that seems a bit risky for a small displacement engine working at high loads.
I have some trouble to see if the Torch CPR6e is equivalent to a CPR6EA or a CPR6EB on NGK charts.
The fact is that I am surprised to see a plug that seems out of standard (at least in Western europe).
I try and let you know how that works.
Have a good day;
Fred

[humanbeing]

http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?3441
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Cross ref info for engines made by www.tyanmotor.com
http://ku-motor.blogspot.fr/2014/04/ngk.html

...seems out of standard (at least in Western europe)...

NGK = 31916-KPH-??? http://vegaauto.com.ua/brands/honda_2380.html
Denso = 319?7-KPH-??? http://www.bike-parts.fr/microfiches...6-KPH-901.html
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CHEAP as peanut in motherland
TAPA (1 of the brand under "TORCH" group) http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=21824868348

[culcune]

Hello,
Yes but the D8EA is a 12mm thread while the CPR6E or CR8E are 10mm thread.

Thank you for that information. I am no mechanic, so any new information helps me out! Humanbeing is VERY good at sorting out these Chinese bikes.

[fredjaw]

Hello You all.
Thank you Humanbeing for all info.
You are true, value of such parts in Motherland is actually cheap but how to get it from far-away ?
I never went far in Taobao.
Here NGK plugs cost quite a lot and if you try to buy it in Honda dealers they come like gold.
It seems in Honda here, if you do not give complete serial number of the bike (Honda for sure) they can not get any part even so standard as spark plug.
I try to live another way.
Have a very good day.
Fred

[MJH]

Phantom 250 showing up as a model for 2016 with Polish Brand Junak.

[fredjaw]

Hello,
My tiger 125 is now 13000 km on clock and yesterday, I filled 13.5 liter for 583 km. I replaced the Torch with a CR8E and that seems to work OK.
About the 250 above. I looked for on Tayo -HaoJiang web page but they show nothing above 150cc ?
I see Junak 125 in Poland, absolutely identical to my Hao-jiang/Revatto.
Perhaps Junak importer would have spare parts for me.
Good ride for all of you.
Fred