Buying a QingQi in Shanghai

**corporal_clegg** · 06-04-2011, 03:05 AM

I'm looking for a good bike to take me and the missus cross country for 3 weeks during the summer. I first thought a cruiser would be a good choice but have been advised to go with a dual-sport.

So I had another poke about the other day to see what else was available. Went to an empty parking lot and a hotel which were sopposed to be zongshen and qingqi dealerships respectively. I eventually found another qingqi dealership near the b address of google maps result for qingqi motuoche (ie. address was also incorrect). the shop was chock full of scooters and 125 standards. there was one cruiser and a liger (200gy) in the front corner. the liger looked class but he wanted 15800 for it. non- negotiable he said. Checked the eqingqi shop and after sometime with my dictionary I found I had ordered one for only 0 rmb plus delivery (200rmb) I called them and found out that the dont actualy have any of the bikes in stock. they told me the bike i saw in the dealership was not going to be released until august. Called a dealer in hangzhou, he said that he will have one next week for a bit over 7000. Dont know what the difference between them is. You have the qm200gy b(a)/b(sd)/b(asd)/2b/i and so on so forth. From the site i can only find superficial differences, the specs seem the same but the bikes look different.

In short im drowning in a load of bs. Will try the dealership again with a chinese in my stead otherwise will have to train it to hangzhou to buy it, figure out how to ride it quicksnap and bring it home under cover of darkness (written test for driving licence on tuesday :)).

Any advice or offers of help in this respect would be greatly appreciated.

**euphonius** · 06-04-2011, 03:22 AM

Dear Clegg,

I rolled up next to a nice looking Qingqi a while back on Wuzhong Lu, and asked the guy where he bought it. He said there was a dealer near there. I didn't get the address but made a mental note to check it out. I remember chasing down a list of putative dealers here in Shanghai, and maybe even posting it in MCM. Unless it's been leveled for a new overpriced housing estate, the place the guy mentioned should be out in the general vicinity of the Dragon Rider shop at 2632 Wuzhong Lu (吴中路 2632号), somewhere near the Middle Ring.

Google lists the following locations:

上海轻骑摩托车专卖有限公司，浦建路111号, Pudong Xinqu, Shanghai - 021-58898693

轻骑摩托车专卖店，张杨路1685号, Pudong Xinqu, Shanghai

东余杭路附近, Hongkou, Shanghai

Alas, none is anywhere near Wuzhong Lu. Are any of these the ones you tried to find? Did you try that phone number?

Say, isn't Felix waiting for delivery of a new Qingqi? (Felix is out doing sidecar tours in the rain this morning, but hopefully he can chime in on the source of his new ride.)

Hope you find something! I'll nose around too.

cheers

**corporal_clegg** · 06-04-2011, 01:54 PM

yea I tried the first two addresses. the first one both the number and the address belong to a hotel. Second one is where I met the guy who wanted the 15800 dowry, there must be some confusion but I managed to get a price from the factory.... they said that the bike I saw in the shop will be selling for around 10k in august, must be a mix-up, but I have pics of the bike and compared to the one on the website and they're the same. Didnt know the one in hongkou. May check it out tomorrow after I have my chinese teacher take a shot at the second one again. Will be happy to see his face if she gets a good price and I roll up and lay down a deposit. will be in wuzhong on tuesday for written test so will scope about.

C'mon felix :) Just p'md him

**felix** · 06-05-2011, 01:16 AM

The one called 'liger' is a 250, not 200.

I do indeed have one on order, but you're not going to hear anything nice from me. I ordered it direct from the factory in shandong, via a contact that a nice person gave me, in f#$%ing February. Qinqi are totally incapable of meeting their own deadlines and have absolutely no interest in their customers. They have totally ruined all my bike trip plans for which i had allocated time off work in may. On top of that it cannot be registered. I do not recommend getting one like that.

Either wait for them to be officially in the dealers or look for something else. Whatever you do, do not try dealing with the factory; they are government owned so it's a lost cause...

**corporal_clegg** · 06-05-2011, 01:44 AM

Sorry to hear that man. I have noticed that a bit (about not about not caring for the customers. Im going around today again to try find a shop/haggle some more for the one i found. which one did you order? how much was it? do you know the difference between the different models? i cant figure it out like b(a), b(asd), b(sd)

**felix** · 06-05-2011, 02:17 AM

Mine is the b(asd), cost 14000.

See if the one in the shop is fuel injected or carburetted, the difference in price might be there. Mine has a carburetor and can't be registered, but the fuel injection version (EFI) should be registerable. If you don't know how to tell the difference search the forum, it's been covered a lot too