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  1. #1 Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    New tires, better quality tires, new fuel tank cap, new front disc brake, rear disc brake, new generation engine.
    this bike has the same design but more stylish.

    Here you have some pictures










    This motorcycle is sold in Spain under the brand Leonart raptor 125 and its price is 2400 euros

    This motorcycle I like a lot and I think I'll buy








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  2. #2 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    Water-cooled engines of regal raptor comes from the old engine patent kawasaki vulcan 250
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  3. #3 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    Dear xacarrere,

    Not sure why but your pictures are not rendering here in China. Would love to see your upgrades!

    cheers
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  4. #4 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    What is the water cooled 125 a copy of ?

    I would like to see a Vulcan 250, there are no images of any on the internet there are of a EL250 but that is not the same engine as the Eliminator 250 is a DOHC.

    Up till now it was thought that the water cooled engine was based off a Honda Rebel engine. That they bored out the cylinder and added a water cooler

    If its a new engine I would like to see it…if it based on a Kawasaki I would like to be able to see the original. I find very little information on a what was called an EN 250 Vulcan just that it was offered in 1995. No images and no specification can be found on that model….the EN 400and 500 yes but nothing on a 250 version.
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    Dear MJH,

    It is the engine of the old kawasaki 250 ninja
    This engine was built on the basis of the vulcan 500, may be that his name not be vulcan, but is like a vulcan 250 and he used the ninja
    Not a rebel honda engine with liquid cooling
    It's the same engine always regal raptor, not a new engine

    Regal raptor engine watercooled




    Vulcan 500 engine





    Regal raptor engine air cooled





    Honda rebel engine




    The water-cooled engine is the same as the vulcan
    air-cooled engine is the same as the engine of the honda rebel
    They are different engines


    Excuse my ignorance of the English language
    I hope you understand me well
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  6. #6 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphonius View Post
    Dear xacarrere,

    Not sure why but your pictures are not rendering here in China. Would love to see your upgrades!

    cheers
    The photos are from Spain.
    In Spain it is sold much regal raptor.
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  7. #7 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    The Ninja family starts in 1983 with various model; a ZZR-250, ZX-250, or as the GPX-250R. One of the earliest generations, the EX250-C, was given the name GPZ-250.

    However the GPZ-250 had a six speed? So did the GPX-250R

    http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...r250r%2089.htm

    I am just not finding an engine that matches, the raptures.
    http://regalraptor.com.sg/regalraptormotorcycles/

    http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...ZR250%2090.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_250R

    The 250 air cooled Regal Rapture “before water cooled” engine specs have it the same as the Honda CMX 250 that being 53x53 and that being a 234cc…now the engine is at 320cc with a bore and stroke of 63x53.

    I have to wonder about that…..
    Air cooled Rapture
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldwi...es/2769931381/
    CMX250
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mx450rebel.jpg

    Not only that the engine keeps growing the Johny Pag versions have a 270cc engine at 57x53.…the Dadywyn keeps growing.
    http://www.johnnypag.com/motorcycles...er300Specs.pdf

    I have always struggled with the concept that Lifeng added water cooling to a air cooled engine, maybe the engine is now based of another design…but without some proof I am not believing it. I think they are growing the CMX and designing as the go….its now their engine.
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  8. #8 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    This bike has the 270cc engine….its a Lifeng/dadwyn engine same as on the Johny Pag bikes.
    http://www.scooterdepot.us/300cc-Mot...yle-p-448.html

    When a distributor stops buying from the factory they will still sell the models to others.

    They are buying the same models that others sell or other are trying to sell…it’s like chess or maybe more like Chinese checkers?

    But these people are so mixed up they have it rated at 9.5kW @8000rpm, I think it has more then 13hp! The typical CMX250 with air cooling has 18hp.

    The bike should offer closer to 20hp, but who knows the Regal Rapture 270cc that went through the EPA are listed at 17bhp? The new 320 are rated at 17kW or 23hp.

    Then notice that scooter despots have the bike with four speed, Um that’s wrong.

    Do you think the people manufacturing them are more diligent to details then those selling them…maybe, maybe not?

    That’s basically the same bike for $2,900.00 delivered to your door then PAG is asking how much? $4,300.00?
    http://www.johnnypag.com/motorcycles/raptorx/index.php

    One factory selling to two distributors one is a friend the other is the friend they use to destroy you with?
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  9. #9 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    My data are not official factory
    Do you have official information to confirm what he says?

    My informant is an expert on engines and has many contacts in China

    say honda rebel engine adapted to liquid cooling is a rumor no more.
    The manufacturer invests little in R & D.
    Just change the displacement of the motorcycle, increasing or decreasing sizes of cylinders, pistons, etc.. the rest of the engine is the same
    Patents are old, with the changes just for changes in displacement

    Regal raptor motorcycles are sold worldwide with many different names
    that is not fraud, is totally legal and authorized by the manufacturer

    Regal raptor motorcycles are not owned by johnny pag
    johnny pag Lifeng is associated with group and has also designed many models
    This is the website of the manufacturer of these motorcycles and his real name is regal raptor: http://www.regal-raptor.com
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  10. #10 Re: Restyling regal raptor DD125E-8 
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    The CMX250 is a SOHC and that engine Lifeng offers is a DOHC so the rumor can be put to rest.

    Now all we need to know is the exact piece of Kawasaki nomenclature that has been resurrected.
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