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  1. #1 My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" and modify 
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    Index (I will update regularly in order to find thing easier)

    Page 1
    - Going to get a new bike
    - Plan for the cosmatic and performance
    - Got new F+R rim and alu swing arm
    - Honda XLR200R Service Manual for DL
    - VI chart for lub oil and to use in the USD fork
    - Plan to get new Tires, IRC IR-Z003

    Page 2
    - Gen Talk on the tires
    - Discuss about engine 163 FML and the spec similar to 1996 XLR200R and TA200
    - This bike as same engine with Lifan JL200GY-5A

    Page 3
    - Full review and spec of Honda XLR200R
    - Lifan engines used in various vehicles in Thailand
    - Home made Motard, using Lifan Engine and local part
    - Historical of Honda RC100 - RC116
    - Honda Dream Replica "CB50R"

    Page 4
    - Plan for Muffler and exhaust modification
    - Skyteam Ace Dream 125cc Retro Motorbike, in Thailand call Tiger 150TT but never import
    - VIN and where to find out
    - Pick up the bike
    - First pic after the show room, plan for decor stuff
    - Speed calculation graph

    Page 5
    - Spec from Booket
    - New Seat Cover
    - Another set of Hand Guard
    - Change bolts with Stainless Steel
    - Engine oil change with Valvoline Diesel 100% Syn 5W-40 API SL
    - Gold CNC front brake cover
    - Anti slip brake and clutch lever
    - New sticker with Honda Racing Team
    - Adjust Air Screw from 2 turns to 1 turn
    - Front brake got better respond

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    Hi,

    Just post some pic of this bike in "Your Chinese Dual sport picture thread"
    So I thought it is better to make a new topic and I can do a lot of posting on her.

    I ordered this bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" on 10 Aug 2011 cost
    THB 46,000 ( 1 usd = 29.8...approx USD 1,543.-)
    this is a good deal compare to KLX125 cost twice and KLX250 would cost 3 times high.

    I paid deposit of THB 2,000 and the bike arrive the dealer on 12 Aug 2011
    I went to the dealer and took her pictures as below


    Quote Originally Posted by Kot View Post
    Hi, Im newbie for this web as well as the china bike. Just bought M-Bike JL200GY C2 from local dealer.
    Now on process with registration, I think I will pick up the bike on 9/5/2011. Just want to share pictures....










    Last edited by Kot; 09-11-2011 at 09:59 AM.
    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  2. #2 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    more over, there was quest on the origine of the bike. I do not know by now.
    May have to wait till I get the bike and I can see the VIN at the chassis.

    below I posted on what I want to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kot View Post
    163 FML Engine Specifications
    • The 163FML engine featured a single-cylinder, four-stroke design.
    • Total piston displacement of the engine was 197 cc.
    • The engine's compression ratio was 9.0-to-1.0 while its bore and stroke measured 2.50 by 2.44 inches.
    • Featured a five-speed, constant mesh transmission and a chain final drive.
    • Engine sported a capacitor discharge ignition (CDI) system, and was available with either an electric starter or a kick start.
    • The engine was air-cooled and used a carbureted fuel system.


    Engine Performance
    • The 163FML engine had 16.76 horsepower at 8,500 rpm and 11.1 foot-pounds of torque at 7,000 rpm.
    • Due to the modest engine size, the top speed was a timid 75 mph.
    • The idle speed for the 163LFM was 1,500 rpm
    I will pick up the bike around Sep 5/2011 with the register plate. Prior to this, I have to do some home work.
    I was thinking on the cosmatic and performance, i.e.
    -New allloy rim (I may get from Honda AX1) with dual purpose tire (Similar to BMW GS)
    -Alu swing arm
    -Rear shock with sub tank
    -520 chain with 15/42 sprocket (May be 428 heavy duty high strength)
    -Let see how the clutch respond, if not will change clutch plate/clutch metal plate to Honda brand.

    With new final drive, I have to do some modify on the VE (Velumetric Efficiency) to have a better performance.
    I was thinking to increase compression ratio to 9.5 to 10 : 1
    Change the fuel system by using new Carb from Keihin PE74 that belong to Honda NSR150
    and change main jet to around 120 and slow jet to 32
    Fuel using will be E10 and E20. I may tune the fuel to use with E85 in the later stage.****
    As I am living at the sea level, I have to re-tune fuel (Carb) anyway. Change carb is the most easiest way to me.

    I want to have a higher touque and HP, but I want to limit the high rev to 8500 rpm.
    This will save the engine life. Later stage to have a bigger forge pistol and do some large valve.

    I was thinking to hit 130 Km/hrs@8000 rpm with this mod and final drive as below chart speed.
    Last before I forget, Engine oil is the most important to me. I will use 100% Synthatic from Valoline
    15W-40 API-SL. I use this oil for all my motors. (FullPressureTurbo Engine, motorcycles)

    Thanks for reading
    Cheers
    Kot





    *****A/F ratio*****

    Ethanol Stoichiometric Ratio 9:1
    Leaded Gasoline 14.7:1

    Unleaded Gasoline with MBTA 14.5:1
    E10 14.13:1 diff by 3.877%
    E20 13.56:1 diff by 7.755%
    E85 9.855:1 diff by 32.959%



    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  3. #3 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    I was searching around for more info
    I got the service manual from 4shared of the Honda XL200 which basically the engine has the same copy.


    to DL Honda XL200 click below link
    http://www.4shared.com/file/gxamcRPV...ice_Manual.htm
    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  4. #4 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    I want to have a new alu swing arm, new 17" rim front+rear.
    I look around at local area and was thinking to get the rear set from Honda Bros400, or VFR400
    who had Pro-Arm in the rear as below pic.






    Pro Arm is very famous in Ph and Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand
    Most small underbones bike will transfer pro-arm from Honda NSR150SP
    This is a sample on Honda Sonic 125cc



    Last edited by Kot; 08-25-2011 at 11:18 AM.
    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  5. #5 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    Just today I look around and found this set of rim from Honda CBR250
    Front Rim 2.5*17
    Rear Rim 3.0*17
    Plus aluminum swing arm, and used rear shock from NSR250

    So I just bought this set and will try to see how It will fit into her.....
    I have to use a lot of resurces, skill of machanic, and leathal shop









    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  6. #6 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    nice list of mods mate bet it'll look ace when its done
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  7. #7 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennon View Post
    nice list of mods mate bet it'll look ace when its done
    Tks a lot, I also have to rebuild Honda HX135 and Suzuki TS125A at the same time.
    This bike may take longer to finish all the plan. On the "VE" that I have to do some mod on the IM, EM, and rear silencer.
    I did not post in full as too many small things to do.

    In my area there is a Honda Phantom TA200 shared the same engine spec
    which build better quality engine. I can use a lot of parts from this bike.

    Lifan 163FML engine, brand new cost THB 11,000 (Approx USD 369.-) which I have
    2 alternate ways of getting the power back in case I blow up her the engine.
    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  8. #8 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    ahh got a plan just in case, no plans for adjustible USD forks?
    you should have a look at my bike
    http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...hon-PRP-125-SM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennon View Post
    ahh got a plan just in case, no plans for adjustible USD forks?
    you should have a look at my bike
    http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...hon-PRP-125-SM
    Great and so cool 125cc bike you have.


    This is not just a plan, started buying stuff already.
    My concept of any mod will have to fit into....Safety and Value

    The rear alu swing arm will have to fit with safety and value.
    The performance of unsprung weight is a plus !!!!

    Front adjust USD fort is not in my plan. I can mod this fork
    to get rebound and spring preload to meet my requirement.
    Just not much room to do the damp!!!! Long to talk just shorten this.
    End result I only spend a few washers and few ltr of oil for fork.
    I plan to test and use between ISO VG 10-32-46-68 to see which
    number will fit best to my require. As the bike will mostly ride
    in city of Bangkok where the traffic is badly jam. Riding sport
    bike in city is less fun when compare to this dual purpose bike.

    Cheers
    Kot


    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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  10. #10 Re: My new Chinese Enduro Bike "M-Bike JL200GY-2C" 
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    Urgent list after pick up the bike:-

    1- Change engine oil
    2- Change F+R wheel, rear swing arm
    3- Change Tyres, plan for IRC IZ-R003 size F 100/80/17 and R 130/80/17
    4- Mod F+R brake by using from Nissin Set I got in earlier post
    5- Frame sliders to protect the engine side cover in case of falling

    These pic for above



    IZ-R is a soft compond, this pic in the <60km in track with Ninja250



    These frame slider, upper with light for driving safety and beauty,
    below made of alu alloy this one protect the bike when fall.






    That's all for now. My next update after I pick the bike sometime in week one of Sep 2011.

    Tks for reading
    Cheers
    Kot
    Current bike....2011 M-Bike JL200GY-2C
    New Hobby: Photograph with Sony A500 + Minolta 50/1.4 - 28/2.8 - Zoom 80-200 APO G NEX5n + Most vintage German manual lenses i.e. Carl Zeiss Jena, Schneider Kreutznach, Enna Munchen, ISCO Gottingen, Steinheil, Voigtlander, Paxatte Staeble, Elmar & Elmarit, Meyer Gorlitz, Roeschlein Kreuznach, Rollei, Edixa, Pentacon, Schacht Ulm, Exakta, and enjoy life


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