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  1. #1 YINGANG USA 
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    Yingang advertises bikes with a 163FML, if you go to the Yingang site and check the engine specs, you see it is actually a 205 version. With a 63.5x65 bore and stroke, the cubage is actually almost 206cc.

    They rate it with 11.5kw @8000rpm that’s 15.65hp. That’s not bad.

    Yingang also has a 169FML that is an over head cam that has 16.32hp @9500 rpm. Its only a 198cc a bit smaller but also bit more powerful.

    http://www.yingangmotor.com/product/...ail.aspx?id=23

    If you like these bikes, your in luck it seems they are importing allot of them, in a variety of models and most with the 163FML also two 170mm, that is a powerful 250ccwith nearly 26hp. (NX250)

    Get the model codes and google them its the best way to find them…..http://www.yingangusa.com/
    The prices in the USA are very good, under $1,500 for the 163FML bikes and also the 170MM can be found for as low as $2,099.00.
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    Here is the software that the distributor is using, https://forms.netsuite.com

    See the diagram, notice the core, it is called a single data source. That in common language is or should come from the factory. See the modules around it, CRM is Customer Relationship Management.

    What information comes out of the factory follows a simple rule of garbage in and garbage out, so if it is pristine as in totally accurate to the highest degree and maintained only by augmenting it, it stays consistent timely and accurate.

    That is all about relational data and the primary key is a VIN Vehicle identification number, its primary because it is unique, it unique because it never is duplicated. Then it is associated with other keys that are also primary and they are related, like a VIN that is associated with a Series the series is associated with a set of parts. They become linked and with it they can be analyzed, quality is embedded in those relationships. They are tables of data that link or join other tables on certain key fields. They can be queried where certain information can be extracted with a command. They have common function like count, average total etc. See the other module called financials.

    Simply adding logistical codes could allow for an eCommerce site to count and display inventory by a location. As in a zip code of a warehouse or retail outlet. The VIN is primary and it can and should be used as the primary key. Because if it needs something it is then augmented with a link to a record set a service log that can record any part added or any labor incurred. Then those are events, they can be associated with a or queried on, collectively into a report on a specific model or series within that models production.

    Models can have image files as pictures, they can have static data as specifications, they can have certificates all as fields associated with or on the model code.

    If done on a VIN number then each owner can have a remotely accessible link, if linked to retail they could order parts and or even schedule service.
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    I like the look of both of their street bikes, the standard which had been reviewed several months ago by 'chinaV' http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...250NF-(YG250-6) as well as their YG-8 (which advertises as a 250cc)enduro, but Massimo's site shows the MSD-200 which is the same bike but with motard wheels/tires. The last time I spoke with one of Massimo's sales guys a few months ago, he said something to the effect of them only carrying the motard-style wheel versions now. I also like the look of their 120cc step-through scooter. I am glad to see a company like Yingang offering higher-quality bikes at lower prices--a good step-up from the standard 200GY enduros from years past!
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    Comes with a tachometer and gear indicator, tells you what gear you are in.
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    The specs are wrong on the site, it has fat tires not 21x18, the rims are smaller then that and have fat street tires on them.
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    not bad looking dual sport
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    If you needed a part and if you could see a diagram with numbered parts, then you could order that part online. Then that would send out an order to the retailer and distributor and also the factory.

    Then they send out at least two and notify the assembly line that parts are failing and which one and on which production run.

    Each bike a VIN and within that identification number a key that points to a list of part associated with numbered diagrams. The factory numbers remain constant and no other numbers used, changing number only complicates the process.

    If the part changes from one production run to another then the new VIN used link to different parts lists.
    The parts lists are or become dynamic and associated with specific series numbers in the VIN.

    That is were statistic’s are used to analyze variances, between production runs and relative variables, like parts used and also assemblers on that run. It is how quality control works, failed parts can be replaced and assemblers can be retrained. Good numbers can be achieved through bonuses as in rewards for good numbers.

    In such a system inventory becomes disbursed across regions, its levels are monitored to counts that rotate at the lowest levels without ever becoming totally depleted. But also quality methods as in practices also reduces the need for the parts. Quality controls reduce warranty costs and also improves the perceived quality to consumers…it grows the brand name…it builds a real and positive brand name reputation.
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    They need an online parts ordering system for those bikes, those orders should go direct to the Yingang factory, then the orders should be shipped to Texas, they should monitor the orders to insure the parts are stocked and also investigate backwards as to why they failed.

    They really need to have parts list for every model they sell in the USA, they should be associated with the VIN number and the batch shipped as a series off s specific production run.

    The distributor should have access to the parts orders and inventory should be tagged in the systems with a location code. Then as orders are placed they should be counted by models to determine the cause of the part failure.

    It could be related to assembly or it could be related to the supplier of the part. If the part is replaced, in the previous part list, then that one item is changed on the previous parts list as say part list2, it would be all electronic and associated with a series of VIN’s sent over. Two separate series (as production runs)would share the same lists with exception to revisions and that identified with a series number, the list may be identical or one single part changed.
    The previous series part get tagged(revised and offer a description or reference to the new part.

    They should use the same system for the actual bikes, as they move around as in are sold to “dealers” the location code changed and when the final sale is made they would get tagged as warranties and then taken off the list for sale.

    They should be able to say that there are a certain number in the country by make and model and were they are located. Then the dealer could price them and with their terms, for shipping etc.

    Then by entering a Zip code a person could see all inventory and sorted by what is closest to them, with the price and terms as details.

    They also could make sales numbers public, displaying what sold and were, even the margins revealed, the factory cost, wholesale cost and average retail prices. That would make dealers notice and also inspire confidence if they reveled parts consumption as warranty claims.

    Eventually they could perfect models and reduce the initial quality issues to near zero and in that reduce warranty claims as well.
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  10. #10 Re: YINGANG USA 
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    Yingang USA the website has been shutdown....
    http://www.yingangusa.com/

    The link is still advertised on the Yingang site...
    http://www.yingangmotor.com/

    Massimo Motors
    has removed nearly all of its "on the highway" vehicle from its website, with the exception of the YG200.
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