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    I doubt they or any company will develop an advanced engine in china that they have to share with a partner that eventually plans a divorce and subsqently assume all the shared assets!
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    I like these...but they have to be well made and they would need a crumble zone and passive restraints. Or they could be restricted to under 45mph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJN View Post
    All the new engines are being imported. Domestic R&D/manufacturing isn't quite capable of delivering the kind of high quality final products that Ford needs to build its brand. Also, a major issue involves supplier quality. There have been several instances of faulty cars being delivered to dealerships due to low-quality sourcing.
    The six cylinder is made in a plant in Brookpark Ohio, just out side of Cleveland, they just recently announced they will be manufacturing the four there as well.

    The US manufacturing plants are all in negotiations, the result of the bailout was concessions and in that lower labor costs and also consolidations.

    Each time the USA goes through recession it always historically comes out more efficient, it is a function of a market driven system to adjust.
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    I think what they did wrong is that they are selling a vanilla line of scooters for Peugeot, that would be one thing and a sort of delusional expectation of that venture.

    Jinan Qingqi also only offer a 150cc motorcycle the ‘Tourace


    I believe that the first version of the 250 was intended and may still as a potential Peugeot model.

    I see a fairly large failure related to this joint venture…

    It would be pretty safe to say that Suzuki would source the 250 models and sell them in china, it would seem logical for them to do that, the factory relocated in 2010 and it was supposed to be to build more and more efficiently.

    So now it all is being restructured, the management and associated partners in the group.

    They kept claiming that Peugeot is the third largest motorcycle manufacturer in Europe and with a long history…which to everyone seems to be missing or not commonly known…or total rubbish?
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    Maybe they will be making these for Peugeot?

    Since they are now owned by an automobile manufacturer.

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    Peugeot engineers have completely reinvented the way to design a vehicle. The BB1 is therefore based on a tubular chassis designed by Peugeot Motorcycles.
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    The automotive partners seem to function better, Dongfeng/Puegot seems to be doing well in the Chinese market. What is the price of a 207 around $12,000.00?


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    Information has actual value....


    I believe it is good old fashion work that drives shareholder equity...the parties need to realize that, yes it is a competitive market, but with out fully stating your direction and intentions, then what or who will buy a share?

    Letting a web page fall in neglect is seen as a warning to investors that you are not funded, if not professional it reflects a lack of that in the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH
    factory relocated in 2010 and it was supposed to be to build more and more efficiently.
    There are actually two or more factories, the relocating factory was most likely the city center Qingqi factory. But the much bigger Suzuki joint venture is out of town and is a very different proposition and structure to the Qingqi owned factory.
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