Jinan Qingqi

[MJH]

Jinan Qingqi Suzuki Motorcycle Co., Ltd. #22 YTD Sales July 2011 at 204150

Jinan Qingqi Motorcycle Co., Ltd. #26 YTD Sales July 2011 at 161880

Combined sales would put them in rank at 15th largest. Combined they are also down 37% in sales from last year, July 2011


1994:Completely Fetched in gsx250 Technology from JAPAN SUZUKI.





fetched GSX250 shop manual...

GSX 250 E 1986
Overall Length: 2 100 mm (82.7 in)
Overall Width: 755 mm (29.7 in)
Overall Height: 1 080 mm (42.5 in)
Wheelbase: 1 410 mm (55.5 in)
Dry Weight: 157 kg (345 lbs)
Engine type: Air-cooled 249 cc inline-2, DOHC, 8 valves. 29 hp/ 10,000 rpm, 2,2 kg-m/ 8,000 rpm.

UNTIL 1994...Then Suzuki went to the single 250

[MJH]

The two will sell over 600,000 this year combined, that is a lot of motorcycles.

I think the movement is more or less portfolio management, that is how I perceive South China Group, they are set to realize growth and will rearrange cooperatives to realize that growth.

I struggle with the strategy…actually just throw shit against the wall to see what sticks. That may be theirs as well?

Maybe it is related to a venture with Arctic Cat? http://www.arcticcat.com/sidexside/model/view/XT550I

They may plan to get into four wheels….

[MJH]

Peugeot motorcycle flagship store in Nanjing

[MJH]

I think the Chinese Peugeots are so boring, maybe that is why they are not selling well?
The same with the Chinese Piaggio’s not quite as boring and seem to be selling better or at least not loosing money for Zongshen.


The Chinese version of a taste of France? That’s just so queer and the consumer is not going for it, are they?

At least Piaggio offers a decent looking sport bike albeit only a 150cc

[MJH]

Not sure what the Italian or the French brought to the table, but it certainly was not creativity…who is telling them that the Chinese are not creative or do not appreciate individual expression?

[MJH]

Polaris did buy the GEM from Chrysler, so they do have an interest in LSV’s.


"Off-road vehicle maker Polaris Industries Inc. said Monday that it has agreed to acquire a Chrysler Group LLC subsidiary that makes electric-powered vehicles."

[MJH]

What could make the stock value appreciate?
JINAN QINGQI MOTORCYCLE-A
(600698:Shanghai)
This is a real-time link:
http://investing.businessweek.com/re...cker=600698:CH

October 27th, 2011 the stock value is at 4.65 RMB

[andre555]

What could make the stock value appreciate? ...

Investing in Chinese stocks - even worse, RMB traded stocks? Better go to Vegas or Macau and gamble there.
There is a reason why the Chinese dont invest in the stock market, they "fry stocks"...

[MJH]

Often great business models are discounted in a general market trend.
Gained 10% in the last ten days http://www.navchina.com/
If purchased in 2008 it gained 100%-200% depending on what point you exited.

[MJH]

I would say that, since they offer both A and B stocks it would tell you something if the variance is large between them.
A are offered to international investors and B are offered to national investors.

The stocks for Jinan are actually over valued the A that is, the B are or may be carrying them?
The A is at about $4.00 a share and the B at $ 0.40 a share

The company is not making a profit on sales, the launch of Peugeot only stores is expensive, it adds overhead to unit costs in a very competitive market. To justify chain stores requires more offerings and in that higher unit sales. That is because the staff and fixed costs to operate have to be offset by high unit sales.
It is possible that the Peugeot's are flying off the showroom floors…but just unlikely. If they are rotating slow they are or may be loosing money on each sale. They are loosing on unit sales out of the factories and the retail outlets are an extension of operations and not an efficient one.