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  1. #1 NYTimes pisses all over adventure riders 
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    Well, it's not just in China that motorcycles get bad press. In this article in the esteemed New York Times, the author pisses, and pisses hard, on adventure motorcycles and their riders, suggesting that only a handful ever engage in actual adventure. This is really strange.

    I just spent a month in northern California, one of the greatest places on earth for motorcycling and bicycling with thousands upon thousands of miles of paved and unpaved roads through spectacular, sparsely populated mountains. I beat the holy shit out of my KLR650, though it's an unadorned adventure bike in its current incarnation -- without panniers or engine shrouds or GPS gear. Guys who rode with me were dealing similar duress to their bikes.

    And I saw plenty of fully loaded adventure bikes that were battered as hell and obviously in the midst of great long adventures. ADVRider.com is filled with accounts, illustrated with hard-to-fake pictures, of bikes and riders in all kinds of adventurous and often precarious and spectacular situations. Even MCM has its share of brilliant adventure ride reports. I've been on some of these rides, and can attest that we were not faking it.

    Truth be told, I cannot think of a single time that I've seen a fully dressed out adventure bike being used by its owner to fetch coffee from Starbucks. I really wonder what bee got under the bonnet of this Dexter Ford fellow, and what prompted his editors to take this utter horse shit at face value.

    Euro-butch aesthetic? What the f*ck?

    sigh.

    October 13, 2011
    A Bike to Take You to the Far Ends of the Earth, or the Supermarket
    By DEXTER FORD
    BY the laws of probability, you wouldn’t expect many Timbuktu-bound motorcyclists to begin their world tours from your local Starbucks parking lot. But that’s where you’re likely to see their circumnavigation-ready machines, just about any Sunday morning, in just about any blue-state suburb from Scituate, Mass., to Santa Monica, Calif.

    Collectively known as adventure bikes, these motorcycles evince a Euro-butch aesthetic that slots somewhere between an espresso machine, an oil refinery and a mountain bike.

    Square aluminum luggage boxes seem designed for foam-swaddled Hasselblads. Steel-tube crash guards run security for engines, headlights and taillights. And handlebars hold the latest in GPS tech, the better to find the next water source in a lonely trek across the Atacama desert.

    These bikes look ready to powerslide the Siberian Road of Bones, ford Chile’s Bio-Bio River or go mano-a-horn with an enraged Namibian rhino.

    In reality, their riders are probably lawyers, creative directors and investment bankers, headed out for nothing more exotic than Sunday breakfast.

    A life-threatening breakfast, to be sure, including eggs with actual yolks, caffeinated coffee and even pork-based cured meats. But any extraordinary riding skill or high-stakes route-finding will focus on getting back to the gated community in time for Briana Scurry’s 1:30 soccer kickoff. Though these bikes are theoretically engineered for hard-hitting off-road exploration, only a tiny percentage will ever go more than a few miles off-piste. As any real dirt-bike rider knows, the next-to-last thing you want while traversing real mud, sand, rocks or water is a sharp-edged, $20,000, 500-pound motorcycle. The last thing you want is to find yourself alone, trapped underneath one.

    As with Cialis, divers’ watches and submarine-launched thermonuclear devices, it is not necessarily what you do with what you have, it’s what you — and others — imagine you could do that counts.

    For years, BMW Motorrad’s best-selling model was the R 1200 GS, a Panzer-like beast that makes a Hummer H2 look like a Chrysler Town & Country. The GS’s success did not go unnoticed, with other manufacturers introducing their own translations. Yamaha has its Super Ténéré 1200. Ducati has its 1200 Multistrada. Suzuki has its V-Stroms. KTM has its own Dakar Rally-winning model, the 990 Adventure. Triumph has the Tiger 1050 and 800. BMW has even copied itself, creating a smaller, lighter GS model, the F 800 GS.

    The motorcycle industry, like the pornography and military industries, owes its existence to the proposition that nobody ever went broke overestimating Americans’ ability to value fantasy over reality. Superbikes are built for road racing, which most of their proud owners will never do. Stripped-down, chopped-out Harleys were created by rough, independent gearheads. So now millions of rugged individuals roar through cities in great herds, wearing the same clothes and riding the same bikes to the same places.

    So it is with adventure bikes. You want the bike that can go anywhere, even if there’s no real chance you’ll actually go there. But unlike choppers and road racers, adventure bikes work really well at what real riders really do: ride around in comfort at near-legal speeds, on standard-issue asphalt. Their upright, motocross-style riding stance is easy on older riders’ knees and wrists, their generous seats accommodate older riders’ generous seats and their ample luggage space allows taking along both belt and suspenders.

    Every great movement has a creation story, and the origins of the adventure-bike phenomenon were authentic enough. The Dakar Rally, which began in 1978, is a long, often deadly, off-road race for cars, motorcycles and even trucks that originally started in Paris, crossed the Mediterranean by ship, wandered through the Sahara and finished in Senegal.

    BMW Motorcycles first won the event in 1981, with a modified version of its twin-cylinder R 80 GS, a bike designed to be capable on both asphalt and dirt. BMW won again in 1983, 1984 and 1985, and built the commemorative R 80 GS Paris Dakar for the 1985 model year. Adapted for long, fast runs, it featured tall suspension, a single orange-upholstered seat and an oversized 8.4-gallon fuel tank.

    In 1984 I rode an early-production R 80 GS Paris-Dakar from Munich, over the Austrian and Italian Alps to Genoa, and then ferried it across the Mediterranean to Tunisia. I navigated the Atlas Mountains, slept in a cave in Matmata, crossed the rainbow-colored mineral pools of the Chott el-Jerid and transited the causeway to the Isle of Djerba.

    Which all sounds pretty rugged, if you don’t know that I did this as a part of an Edelweiss Bike Travel tour. We had guides ready to fix our flats (thanks, Josef), a chase truck carrying our luggage, hotel rooms most nights and red wine every night. And next to me were riders with not-ready-for-Africa machinery, including a Kawasaki KZ 550 street bike and a chrome-studded Yamaha Virago cruiser.

    The Dakar Rally still rallies. But it doesn’t go to Dakar. It doesn’t even go to Africa. Terrified by terrorists in Mauritania, its organizers transplanted it to South America years ago.

    Which seems symmetric. Like all these motorcycles that will never adventure where their adventurous names suggest, even the race that inspired them all doesn’t go where its name says it goes.
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  2. #2 Re: NYTimes pisses all over adventure riders 
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    Sorry for the rant, which reminds me: How about we get some stickers printed so we can make our full-regalia Starbucks runs in proper style?

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    The writer sounds about right. He is writing about the majority of bike owners in the US who have never ridden far on their "adventure" bike. It is kind of like the SUV craze of the 1990's and 2000's which saw men and women buying 4 wheel drive poseur machines that only saw off-road when they were parallel parked next to a grassy field. Think of all the Range Rover/Land Rovers that see duty driving up and down Sunset Blvd. in L.A. and not much elsewhere!
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    Sounds about right to me to.
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  5. #5 Re: NYTimes pisses all over adventure riders 
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    those big beemers are nice bikes and the guys who own them can do what they like
    dexter ford can go piss up a rope
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    Dexter writes: "Though these bikes are theoretically engineered for hard-hitting off-road exploration, only a tiny percentage will ever go more than a few miles off-piste."

    As a good journalist, I'm sure Dexter has done his due diligence and proper fact checking, and can tell us what this TINY PERCENTAGE is, right? I doubt it.

    I've been out of the US for a long time, so am I out of touch with the emergence of an Adventure Motorcycle Glam Culture which Dexter writes about? Am I'm wrong in thinking that the ride reports on www.advrider.com represent the greater population of adv bike owners? If so, then this Edelweiss Tour rider should provide proof, rather than give off the cuff remarks like, "Euro-butch aesthetic".

    So until Dexter provides me with the statistical data to back up his assertion, then the following quote is reserved only for the Starbucks trashers out there:

    Lisa Simpson to brother Bart: "- An earring! how rebellious, in a conformist kind of way."

    ....and especially those in China. Seriously? It's just coffee. In an attempt to be so "anti-establishment" and "non-conformist" you all just sound so elitist.

    And in China most cities don't offer a plethora of cafes to obtain a cup of coffee. Starbucks has the market share. Out of the Top Ten coffee chains in the US, how many of them are here in China? Are there decent local coffe shop alternatives?

    US outlets
    Starbucks - 8,000
    Caribou Coffee - 322
    Tim Horton's - 292
    Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf - 213
    Coffee Beanery - 200
    Seattle's Best - 160 (which happens to be a subsidiary of Starbucks!)
    Peet's Coffee - 112
    Tully's - 100
    Dunn Bros. Coffee - 85
    Port City Java - 55

    ....and good luck trying to find a boutique cafe in china (few and far between). So all you MCM Starbucks bashers out there, chill out. It's just coffee.

    * Which reminds me of a morning meet some of us had in Shanghai recently at a Starbucks that caught criticism. First and foremost, they have a big space to park motorcycles which isn't easy to find in Shanghai! And, the manager of the shop is motorcycle-friendly - inviting us to park our bikes there. And it's just coffee.

    Is Starbucks evil? Of course not.
    Are they perfect? Of course not.
    Do you love/hate their coffee? That's up to you, but don't piss on someone else for drinking their coffee.

    Just some random posting I found online:
    I work for Starbucks. I have done for 2 1/2 years, it’s not what I went to university for, neither of my degrees are in coffee/customer service, but as far as crap retail jobs go Starbucks is pretty decent. I have always been a proponent of environmentally friendly, fair trade products and when I first got hired at Starbucks I wasn’t sure how I was going to be able to work there when I’d heard so many negative things about the company but I had to pay rent so I figured it would do in the short-term. I was surprised by what I found out. Starbucks is nowhere near the evil corporation that it’s made out to be. It was the first company in North America to offer part-time workers full benefits. They work closely with CARE International. After Hurricane Katrina, Starbucks bought a hotel for all its partners and their families to live in until they could move back to their own homes and guaranteed their jobs would be there for them. How many other large companies did that?

    One of the reasons that most of Starbucks’ Coffees aren’t certified Fair Trade or Organic is that the farmers have to pay around $30,000 for the certification. As most of these farms are small, family-run operations they cannot afford to.

    I realise that I will get dismissed as having been brain-washed by corporate propaganda but I am capable of thinking for myself and while I certainly don’t agree with some of the things Starbucks does, and I believe we’re turning into the McDonalds of coffee, I don’t think it deserves the reputation of ‘evil’.
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    Can't journalists stick to reporting the news in an unbiased way, as selected by their editor? This guy sounds like he used to ride but now has lost his balls, and is letting his car driver insecurities control his twittering, twattering etc.
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    .... ha! Give you just a smile of sympathy, Mr Ford!
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    Even though Mr. Poin-Dexter's pretentious over-generalization is inflammatory, poorly written and supported by the overwhelming experience of a single guided tour... it's actually a good thing for the industry overall. Positive or negative, the more people talking about it the better. Commentary like this only serves to galvanize the advriding community and may even make some people think about doing more with what they've got in their garage.

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    Evidently Dexter Ford is no stranger to controversy, he was fired as a contributing editor of Motorcyclist Magazine after working in that position for over thirty years.
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