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  1. #1 efi kit 
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    Searched a few terms and couldnt find anything so i thought I'd start a thread. So many riders especially in the US have to tune and jet carbs on small engine motorcycles. Since we cant get china bikes with efi why not get efi for china bikes.

    I am in no way affiliated with ecotron and actually have no experience with their products tgats why im posting this.

    http://www.ecotrons.com/Small_Engine_EFI_PNP_kit.html

    Does anyone have any experience with these systems
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    Great post!

    This is fascinating. I just read through their FAQ, and it really opened my eyes. Also provides a lot of context for understanding our current problems with stalling in our JH600s.

    I know there are plenty of people who are very good with carbs, and will ask why not leave well enough alone, but, as EcoTron itself notes, for some folks the fun is in the challenge of trying something innovative and fresh.

    I do hope we get feedback from people who have tried this. EcoTron does point to this thread at ScootDawg.com.

    cheers!
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    There is at least one CN local vendor sells EFI component to mass market (BtoC), called 光印电子。

    their website
    http://www.motoefi.com/EFI/

    their online store
    http://shop36470906.taobao.com

    I haven't tried their product on my bike, but they said they are the supplier to Qianjiang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by td_ref View Post
    There is at least one CN local vendor sells EFI component to mass market (BtoC), called 光印电子。

    their website
    http://www.motoefi.com/EFI/

    their online store
    http://shop36470906.taobao.com

    I haven't tried their product on my bike, but they said they are the supplier to Qianjiang.

    Thanks for the links but my computer is out and all i have is my phone which will not translate tge pages and i also do not understand Chinese. So ill have to wait until my cpu is back up to view tgose pages
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    91 views and no one else has any insight or opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by mo bobber View Post
    91 views and no one else has any insight or opinion


    Well, the reason why I did not even bother to reply is that I don't believe something like this is "plug-and-play".
    As most of the Jialing 600 riders start to understand by now, FI is a very complicated thing, where very small changes in input can result into large complications.

    Further, unless they have something magic, the"self learning" thing is not covering the maps, just an increase or decrease in fuel supply as in close-loop running.
    Every bike, and perhaps even every individual bike out of a serie, needs a custom map, including a custom spark advance map, specifically for the technical circumstances of that bike.
    IMO, standard EFI equipment, with a standard map and a closed loop circuit, will not run, will run very bad, or will in the best of cases have several flat spots or be very fuel inefficient. This needs a lot of custom mapping, something most of us are not able to do, even if the USB connection is there ...

    The kit itself looks complete though.

    My 2 cents.
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  7. #7 Re: efi kit 
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    Euphonius, i have read nearly every post in the scootdawg thread they have come a long way in a short time. I was curious as to how the kits would possibly translate to say the df 250rtb or rtc or any of the china bikes that get ordrred frequently.


    And td ref ill look into tgat site thanks
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