Man this place is a fountain of information, thanks guys, I feel like I am being fed with a firehose. So that is not the bike I want to get for my brother who is used to a KTM 690? I dont want to have any issues while we are out, as I need to get back to the Jing, I have restaurants to run and a week away for me now is alot. Should I just bite the bullet and get them directly from Shineray? But reliability being the top reason to spend some extra money on it, like I said I dont want to get stranded in the middle of nowhere. So let me have it guys, spend the 23000 and keep one really nice bike after selling the lightly used one? Or spend 12000 and have a disposeable model? The experts are here and I am listening intently.

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