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  1. #1 Whats the future of foreigners riding in China 
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    I saw one posting on this website that didn't look to promising.

    Don't the Chinese know that they have great riding in China that people from all over the world would love to come and ride?
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    BigD,

    I think the problem is the overall idea of "motorcycling" in China is still largely viewed by the gov't as cheap transportation and not a lifestyle/personal expression/recreational sport. There are some people in the country who are trying to change that (and the manufacturers would like to see this FOR SURE) but these kinds of shifts may take generations of time.

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    I saw one posting on this website that didn't look to promising.

    Don't the Chinese know that they have great riding in China that people from all over the world would love to come and ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCarl
    Off the top of my head, it seems the care-free days of riding without a license will soon be over. Although this will take at least a year before it comes into full effect, it's nonetheless a sign of things to come. Whether or not they will nationally standardize a process for 4ners to get licenses is largely unclear and may not happen in my life time...who knows.

    If you already have a license and ride in China then the situation may be different and a lot of it may depend on what happen within the country in regards to internal affairs. Economic downturns can have all kinds of interesting side effects!

    Maybe it will get better, maybe it will get worse. Perhaps it will get worse before getting better...who knows. Regardless, one thing is for sure, ride it while the riding is good!
    Is it true that Chinese from one province can not drive/ride in another province.
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    From personal experience I've seen lots of guys riding motorcycles all over China so if it is a rule it must not be strictly enforced. I think it depends on the type of license you get. When I got my first Chinese temporary license they asked if I wanted to travel outside the province and there was a restriction on the back. I said, well actually my Chinese friend said for me, "YES I WANT TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE PROVINCE" and they reluctantly gave me the inter-provincial designation.

    The rules for licenses are handled by province/city and may or may not be the same depending on where you are. I know some people have had extremely difficult times getting licenses in ChongQing but up in Chengdu it's "relatively" easy...right now anyway.

    If you, or anyone esle, wants to see the ENGLISH study guide for the Chengdu driving exam (questions and answers) you can download the PDF at:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdamo View Post
    Is it true that Chinese from one province can not drive/ride in another province.

    It is not true. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese bikers are roaming cross provincial borders everyday.
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  6. #6 Trans-Provincial riding in China 
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    Hi,
    If I can figure out how to attach them, here's a couple videos of our recent rides in Anhui and Hebei.
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    <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmwhQQXOfvs>
    <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUHhsfYJuLs&feature=email>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbosidecar View Post
    Hi,
    If I can figure out how to attach them, here's a couple videos of our recent rides in Anhui and Hebei.
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    Great videos, thanks for sharing!

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    Jimbo!

    Good stuff! If you have more stuff to add, it would be cool to see in the trip report section!

    The thread which explains how to embed you-tube videos is here:

    http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCarl View Post
    BigD,

    I think the problem is the overall idea of "motorcycling" in China is still largely viewed by the gov't as cheap transportation and not a lifestyle/personal expression/recreational sport. There are some people in the country who are trying to change that (and the manufacturers would like to see this FOR SURE) but these kinds of shifts may take generations of time.

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    Yes, you are right with this point, but there is something else to consider.

    As long as posting about "no_problem_riding_illegally" (including useful hints to do so) is spread all over the web,
    the future for foreigners riding in China could be a difficult one.

    Just my 2 cents

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    I have a few points here......you may or may not like.

    ---Foreigners may one day banned from obtaining a Chinese motorcycle licence, this is a nanny state after all. Seeking to protect us from ourselves, this is because 99.9% of Chinese people as Carl says, view motorcycles as a cheap means of getting from A to B, they think of electric bicycles mostly in the same way as motorcycles. This is changing as there is more western/Hong Kong/Taiwanese/Korean influence on them. At the moment they are having a love affair with the car.

    The hardcore few Chinese that do have good bikes in my area have illegally imported big Hong Kong bikes, they typically have no registration, licence, and many might wear a cool jacket but no helmet.

    Why do people break the law on mass?

    China has so many laws and a huge population, it can only enforce so many laws effectively at one time, so due to resources it is forced to do purges. The purges these days are the most lucrative ones so they target cars and trucks.

    I'm an evil foreigner without a Chinese license, am I ruining this for everyone?

    I have already passed a motorcycle test in Europe, and have satisfied those authorities from Poland to Portugal, Finland to France that I am a competent rider. Why really should I go out of my way and spend a hefty amount of cash to satisfy the most incompetent drivers in the world? I know this is arrogant, but I don't really care. Why should I attempt to obtain a licence when 90% of the locals in my area have no helmet, real registration plates and no insurance or license?

    If I lived in a bigger city such as Shanghai or Beijing I would feel differently about this and would have a licence...probably.
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