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  1. #11 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    Quote Originally Posted by humanbeing View Post
    http://www.qssuzuki.com.cn/ is that Qingqi jv 's official site.
    Thanks, that must be a very-very old website that nobody updates. They don't have GW250 there but they have '97 GSX 250
    http://www.qssuzuki.com.cn/product_s...mall=3&proid=5
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  2. #12 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    That site don't had GW250 because it's made by "enemy" http://www.haojue.com/
    http://info.motor.hc360.com/2007/11/28083723732.shtml had interesting story
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  3. #13 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    Being that I am an old SOB, I really like the classic look of your new steed.

    Have you ever ridden over the new bridge to the island? Nothing really earth shattering as far a ride but kind of a good way to spend an afternoon, especially during the week when no traffic. There is a loop around the entire island. Let us know if you want to go take your new rides on an afternoon island test ride and we will do our best to meet up with you guys.

    Enjoy the new ride and if I remember and read correctly in another post your wife has a new ride that I hope she enjoys too!
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  4. #14 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    I assume that Suzuki sold the rights to the 250cc to Qingqi as they are not making and selling them in China themselves, not even the 200cc either.


    Qingqi Suzuki sells the GS125 and to the tune of about a million….since its introduction 20years ago, according to that website.





    I assume that Jinan Qingqi paid for the rights to the 200cc and 250cc….those would be or could be a called specialized in china and not main stream market, the mainstream is primarily rural sales, as those are the high volume sales. I see awkwardness as they attempt to develop that domestic market and also simultaneously an export market as well.


    I would say they followed what was a logical progression, but really should have developed a bigger bike line as all the attention is going to what is missing in the market, multi-cylinder larger displacement models. But in order to justify such a big initiative the products have to have global distributions, like the GW250. But Haojue is not selling the GW250 under its name is it? It is all some sort of chess game for rights. Anything Suzuki makes in china can be globally distributed, simply because they have the established network in place.
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  5. #15 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    Quote Originally Posted by humanbeing View Post
    That site don't had GW250 because it's made by "enemy" http://www.haojue.com/
    http://info.motor.hc360.com/2007/11/28083723732.shtml had interesting story
    Thanks for the article, kinda hard to read it through, but I managed it fine almost without the help of google translate. Makes me wonder what's that with all those companies. And makes me wonder if GW250 has imported bikes' quality. Also makes me wonder why Haojue brand their GW250 as Suzuki not as Haojue, even though they seem to have rights to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasAggie View Post
    Being that I am an old SOB, I really like the classic look of your new steed.

    Have you ever ridden over the new bridge to the island? Nothing really earth shattering as far a ride but kind of a good way to spend an afternoon, especially during the week when no traffic. There is a loop around the entire island. Let us know if you want to go take your new rides on an afternoon island test ride and we will do our best to meet up with you guys.

    Enjoy the new ride and if I remember and read correctly in another post your wife has a new ride that I hope she enjoys too!
    Thanks!
    Haven't had time to ride that way. Indeed I'm waiting for September when the students go to school and I'm not so busy at my training center. Will ride down that way one day for sure :)
    Yeah, my wife got a Suzuki EN-150 (EFI, 6-speed gearbox, legally plated) and loves it a lot. Pics and info are in this thread: http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...-Suzuki-EN-150
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  7. #17 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    Lots has changed since Honda made Honda which was sold at Honda dealership...
    So, to sum it up, the origin of my bike goes as follows:

    1. Suzuki and QingQi had cooperation in the past and have now, but Suzukis weren't branded QingQi and vice versa even though there's QingQi Suzuki website: http://www.qssuzuki.com.cn/index.asp
    During this cooperation process Jinan QingQi bought rights for Suzuki GS125 engines.
    My bike can't be found on that website.

    2. There's been widely known Suzuki-Haojue joint venture. Their website's http://www.haojue.com/
    and it has both Suzuki and Haojue bikes, but nothing similar to my bike.

    3. I tried Suzuki Taiwan http://www.suzukimotor.com.tw/index.php and their website has nothing on my bike.
    OK, I'm not surprised, it's not branded Suzuki after all.

    4. It's branded QingQi but has no representation on QingQi website http://www.qingqi.com.cn/

    5. Something similar can be seen on Somoto website http://www.somoto.cn/products.asp?nid=20 but with a different engine (e.g. their bikes have kickstarter, my bike doesn't). When contacted, Somoto said they didn't distribute their bikes in China.

    6. It was designed by CCW, but isn't featured on their website either http://www.clevelandcyclewerks.com/bikes/

    Well, what can I say, TIC...
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  8. #18 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    Last edited by humanbeing; 07-06-2012 at 09:12 AM.
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  9. #19 Re: QingQi U-Zeal (轻骑 125-3B): Back to the Basics 
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    Quote Originally Posted by humanbeing View Post
    Aaaargh, youtube links...
    Me China No Youtube :(
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    Judging by the pics in that motorfans thread QingQi had hard time figuring the ideal tank/exhaust pipe design combination
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