Dual Sporting around Beijing?

**euphonius** · 10-01-2012, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Alexisan

Is there a Bike you would say can Last about 17 km's ???

Dear Alex,

There are plenty of China bikes that will last two or three or four times times that, given proper maintenance and service, etc. (I would include your bimmer in that, despite their propensity to break down.) For a ride from China to Europe, our any touring inside China, you'll want a bike that can be serviced easily and inexpensively, with readily available parts. Most of the Chinese clones fit this description far better than a BMW, as you can often swap out inexpensive parts from Honda, Suzuki or Yamaha that are widely available. If your BMW clutch goes out in Zheigastan or Neigastan, you'll be cooling your heels for one to two weeks waiting for your gold-plated parts to be airfreighted in from Europe or America. Some guys/gals ride expensive Euro and Jap bikes in China and get along fine, but they tend to be wealthy (or posers who don't ride much). You can read all about it in MCM.

Spend a few days searching through our the MCM forums, especially the many excellent ride reports -- most of which are done on China bikes. This will give you a strong sense of what's reliable and what's not, and how easily repairs can be managed if you break down in some godforsaken place. Once you have a better idea of what's out there, you can ask informed questions and expect excellent answers.

Good luck!

**felix** · 10-01-2012, 04:21 AM

Here's a quick list to get you started, some bikes you might want to consider for china - europe trip:

Reliable all rounders:
Yamaha YBR250 - THE proven all rounder
Yamaha YBR125 - a lot cheaper
Honda CBF150RR
Suzuki GW250 - just came out, not proven yet but high hopes for it

A little lower on the reliability scale
Jialing JH600 - the only big cc chinese ADV bike
CFmoto 650NK - street
CFmoto 650TR - touring
Qingqi 250 Liger - you won't find one
Galaxy XTR250 - fun dirt bike

Bottom of the reliability ladder
Asiawing LD450 - such a shame...

**euphonius** · 10-01-2012, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by felix

Here's a quick list to get you started, some bikes you might want to consider for china - europe trip:

Reliable all rounders:
Yamaha YBR250 - THE proven all rounder
Yamaha YBR125 - a lot cheaper
Honda CBF150RR
Suzuki GW250 - just came out, not proven yet but high hopes for it

A little lower on the reliability scale
Jialing JH600 - the only big cc chinese ADV bike
CFmoto 650NK - street
CFmoto 650TR - touring
Qingqi 250 Liger - you won't find one
Galaxy XTR250 - fun dirt bike

Bottom of the reliability ladder
Asiawing LD450 - such a shame...

Excellent and helpful post, Felix. Given the number of newb posts asking "which bike" or "what about this bike" it would be nice to get your list into a new, easily searchable sticky titled something like: Which China bike in China? The Good, The Bad and The Wretched. The list could then have links to more detailed threads about the individual bikes.

Interesting that all of your A-list bikes have Japanese DNA.

cheers

**Modocodo** · 10-01-2012, 11:19 AM

Hi Guys, I'm new here.
Actually I'm looking to buy a Gilera Runner 180/200 (Scooter), I saw some used one on taobao.com but turnsout they dont have available at the moment.
Anyone know how I can get one in China, preferably in Beijing, Tianjin or online? I'm willing to bring it to Beijing. It's pretty hard to find a foreign brand/made scooter here, am not looking for R9(FYI I dont like the R9 at all), I want something a bit foreign, a Aprilia Scooter is also welcome.

Thanks guys.

Greetz

**Alexisan** · 10-01-2012, 10:56 PM

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**Alexisan** · 10-01-2012, 10:57 PM

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**Alexisan** · 10-01-2012, 10:59 PM

I am just thinking which of those bike would be able to cope with the roads that might be found in Mongolia.
But a good start. Thanks y'all for the info's. They are very valuable to me.
Can't wait to get there. Alex

**Alexisan** · 10-02-2012, 06:49 PM

hey guys, got an email today there were are coming!! great!! prob in Feb next year!

**thedannywahl** · 10-05-2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Modocodo

Hi Guys, I'm new here.
Actually I'm looking to buy a Gilera Runner 180/200 (Scooter), I saw some used one on taobao.com but turnsout they dont have available at the moment.
Anyone know how I can get one in China, preferably in Beijing, Tianjin or online? I'm willing to bring it to Beijing...

don't come to tianjin - I had to go to Beijing to get my bike. Tianjin is a no-bike city since 2005, so there's no real dealerships here (outside of e-bike shops that sell an R9 or 2).

FWIW I got my bike at the dealerships at the jiugong Beijing subway stop. They had a TON of scooters, including Aprilla.

Good luck!

**Modocodo** · 10-05-2012, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by thedannywahl

don't come to tianjin - I had to go to Beijing to get my bike. Tianjin is a no-bike city since 2005, so there's no real dealerships here (outside of e-bike shops that sell an R9 or 2).

FWIW I got my bike at the dealerships at the jiugong Beijing subway stop. They had a TON of scooters, including Aprilla.

Good luck!

Thank you very much, I'll just drop by the tomorrow to check them out.
By the way, I was 2 days ago in Tianjin, went to Tanggu to check out the bikes there, some great motorcycles and relatively cheap, comparing to Beijing here, but couldn't find any big foreign brand scooter.

Again thanks for the info.

GRTZ