Adventure Motorcycle Magazine Subscribe Now

View Poll Results: CFMoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS

Voters
23. You may not vote on this poll
  • CFMoto 650NK

    11 47.83%
  • Benelli BJ600GS

    12 52.17%
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 22
  1. #11 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    Senior C-Moto Guru Zorge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Σερβία
    Posts
    1,745
    But with that option you'll get a more realistic picture.
    Ask me nothing - I DO NOT speak english. Really...
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #12 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    Senior C-Moto Guru ZMC888's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Zibo, Shandong - Sometimes SW England
    Posts
    2,239
    But why Zorge? You need to compare to similarly priced, similar displacement bikes for the same use. The TR650 is more expensive and is a tourer, the JH600 is a single cylinder dual sport bike, so not for the same purpose. If you added ER6 or CBF600 then it wouldn't make sense as these bikes are too expensive and not available in China.

    To be fair though, I asked a few of my Chinese mechanic friends and they all said 'neither', both bikes have problems.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #13 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    foreign China moto dude bikerdoc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Zhejiang PRC, OZ, NZ
    Posts
    2,389
    ^That may be the case, though sometimes in China one has to consider that asking a local for their opinion needs to be tempered with is their answer; based on fact, interpretation thereof, some blog, forum or the Chinese miniblog version of soap operas, or, just an inherent bias - which often is valid, though sometimes it's not. Many manufacturers have issues, even some of the luxury brands. Is it really fair, to be trying to compare these new to the mass market mid displacement motorcycles, when the companies in all fairness have little to no experience making them. It's a huge leap to be going from 110-125-150cc basic motorcycles and scooters that are copied from old designs, to much more modern technologies... If one takes stock about it all, just a year or two back, there were many (and I'll be the first to put my hand up here) that were complaining about what little if any choices and offerings were available except to buy an overpriced import (whether that be legit or grey market) and the costs and plating issues inherently associated with said choices. Yet here we are where several local manufacturers have upped the anti and fulfilled those wishes, or some international brands have imported other offerings (albeit expensive and perhaps not well suited to the local telent pool or conditions) yet still people are not satisfied. While the bikes on offer are a welcome addition, I realise they still leave room for improvement, but... With a little more time and input the manufacturers will get there. It's often the early adopters who help push the improvement changes needed. The major issue is getting our voices heard at the right level to have those changes effected. That is more of a problem... just my kuais worth... YMMV.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #14 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    Senior C-Moto Guru ZMC888's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Zibo, Shandong - Sometimes SW England
    Posts
    2,239
    Doc, I get what you are saying and I completely agree. I was just saying what mechanics I know said, not that I actually agreed with them! My bike for example is considered utter garbage by all Chinese riders. Weird how with some work, mechanical sympathy and knowledge I have been able to do 30,000 kms on it in three years. Sure I wouldn't buy it again, but it hasn't exploded, although it's a much different bike that left the factory.

    To me at least both manufacturers deserve a chance, all I ever wanted was a plated 2nd hand CBF500, but I can't get that, so these bikes are an affordable option. Also being that my budget is tight and I like a bike to ride and am not into lifestyle choices or wearing badges.

    To CFMoto tick the right boxes so far for few reasons....

    1. They spend a lot of money on R&D (according to you)
    2. They honor their warranty, and go above and beyond (according to you too)
    3. I know a few people who work for them
    4. It's a twin cylinder

    I don't care if the bike is perfect or not, all I want is a bike that can be fixed it it goes wrong.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #15 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    Senior C-Moto Guru Zorge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Σερβία
    Posts
    1,745
    Quote Originally Posted by ZMC888 View Post
    But why Zorge?
    These are my thoughts.

    First of all, I do not like to buy something that has only recently appeared on the market. I do not want to be some kind of beta tester of any products and to test it for my money, which in the case of both bikes, not exactly small. Call this objective assessment.

    The other thing is totally subjective: Modern nakeds are "not my cup of tea" - I do not like their riding position; gives me a blister on my belly. I'd rather show some interest for V-Strom-ish CFMOTO with this NK's twin.

    Regardless of what I wrote, I am really glad that that I can see more and more Chinese bikes with displacement exceeding half a liter.

    Although they are not a masterpiece, these two bikes are really something new in the Chinese motorcycle industry, at least step or two forward from what we've seen so far - real motorcycles in the full sense of the word.
    Ask me nothing - I DO NOT speak english. Really...
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #16 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    C-Moto Not-so-Noob fletch7276's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Beijing, Shunyi
    Posts
    17
    I voted with my wallet tonight, bought the CFMoto. did a ton of research on both of them. talked with mechanics, rode both, talked with current owners etc. I spent the last 4 years on inline 4's (ZX6 track bikes in Austin TX), so I initially leaned towards the Benelli, but there are just too many quirks about it...the problems people have are not consistent, which is a big warning sign. the CF shortfalls were more confined, thus easier to prepare for as an owner.

    I'm a mechanic myself, so actually looking forward to digging into either bike if duty calls... but hoping for a few thousand k's of tool-less mountain rides in the next few months...
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #17 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    foreign China moto dude bikerdoc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Zhejiang PRC, OZ, NZ
    Posts
    2,389
    Quote Originally Posted by fletch7276 View Post
    I voted with my wallet tonight, bought the CFMoto. did a ton of research on both of them. talked with mechanics, rode both, talked with current owners etc. I spent the last 4 years on inline 4's (ZX6 track bikes in Austin TX), so I initially leaned towards the Benelli, but there are just too many quirks about it...the problems people have are not consistent, which is a big warning sign. the CF shortfalls were more confined, thus easier to prepare for as an owner.

    I'm a mechanic myself, so actually looking forward to digging into either bike if duty calls... but hoping for a few thousand k's of tool-less mountain rides in the next few months...
    Great to hear, so looking forward to a more in-depth review from a mechanic - would be a real plus. Paste up your link in this thread once you have had time to get to grips with your new ride and your first impressions. Oh, and congratulations... let us know when you take delivery, and how you get on with plating the bike etc.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #18 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    Senior C-Moto Guru ZMC888's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Zibo, Shandong - Sometimes SW England
    Posts
    2,239
    Fletch if you have the time, please could start you own thread on this bike as bikerdoc says in-depth thoughts from a mechanic would be great.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #19 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    Duct tape savant felix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Guilin, China
    Posts
    1,252
    Good man Fletch! Let us know how you get on with the new baby!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #20 Re: CFmoto 650NK vs Benelli BJ600GS which do you prefer? 
    C-Moto Regular Topmanda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Shanghai
    Posts
    89
    So Fletch, what's the price of the license plate in Beijing (downtown one)?
    Reply With Quote  
     

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 309
    Last Post: 03-31-2014, 02:19 PM
  2. Benelli BJ600GS - lessons learned
    By SammyDV in forum Street
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 01-20-2014, 04:21 PM
  3. Replies: 24
    Last Post: 12-06-2012, 08:03 AM
  4. CFMoto 650NK sport bike
    By Lao Jia Hou in forum Street
    Replies: 103
    Last Post: 08-28-2012, 04:23 AM
  5. What kind of Luggage do your prefer?
    By Supersignet in forum Ride Prep and Making Tracks
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-25-2008, 03:56 AM
Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •