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  1. #11 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
    C-Moto Senior braillce's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghaifingers View Post
    I will be honest... With my 户A's I still often "ride like I stole it". Its not really about riding fast of dangerous I just ride like the local motorcyclist. However that being said I do avoid the camera sensors on the road when i can[...]
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    Hey.

    I see some Chinese drivers stopping at the lights, but some don't, hard to conclude anything.

    Is ur address on ur driving license the one at which u currently live?

    Have u ever received anything in the mail urself?
    Le siècle ou nous vivons est un siècle pourri. - Tout n'est que lâcheté, bassesse, - Les plus grands assassins vont aux plus grandes messes - Et sont des plus grands rois les plus grands favoris. - Hommage de l'auteur à ceux qui l'ont compris, - Et merde aux autres.
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  2. #12 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    Have u ever received anything in the mail urself?
    frequent monthly check of the Shanghai traffic ticket website helps: http://www.shjtaq.com/zwfg/dzjc_new.asp
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  3. #13 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    You are crazy not to stop at traffic lights.
    Just stop, stop, too much risk with other drivers just not seeing you.

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  4. #14 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    If you make sure that there's no one coming from both sides, I don't see the problem.
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  5. #15 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    it's all relative to context. I'm not in a big city, and much of my riding is in towns, villages and mountains. Roads here where I am based are relatively quiet. I also purposely take routes that while longer in getting me where I want to go, are quiet and scenic. Getting from point A to B as quick as possible is not the focus of my rides, it's the journey I take a long the way...
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  6. #16 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghaifingers View Post
    Road rage, assaults and just bad driving edicate reflects badly on everyone....

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghaifingers View Post
    I will be honest... With my 户A's I still often "ride like I stole it".

    So which is the real YOU? - friday afternoon kiddding

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  7. #17 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TB-Racing View Post
    frequent monthly check of the Shanghai traffic ticket website helps: http://www.shjtaq.com/zwfg/dzjc_new.asp
    I check out clean.

    Cheers.
    Le siècle ou nous vivons est un siècle pourri. - Tout n'est que lâcheté, bassesse, - Les plus grands assassins vont aux plus grandes messes - Et sont des plus grands rois les plus grands favoris. - Hommage de l'auteur à ceux qui l'ont compris, - Et merde aux autres.
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    Thanks for the link TB-Racing: much appreciated!
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  9. #19 Re: Driving in Shanghai: Traffic lights, big avenues and one-way streets? 
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    I stop for red lights, no matter what, and watch my back very carefully.
    Heck, I even stop for green lights if I am not sure.

    Remember, the deformation zone on a bike is only the thickness of your leathers!
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    I blow through as many lights as I can. I feel it's my duty as a citizen of the planet to not sit idling in traffic wasting precious fuel and polluting the environment with toxic fumes. Apply some basic traffic flow concepts to the light systems here and I'll consider obeying the lights. It's pretty easy to tell if it's safe, you just open your eyes and look around to see if there are other vehicles, if you don't see any, you can go. Being that I've only had 3 tickets for the 3000+ violations, I think it't pretty safe to conclude the camera system here works about as well as everything else.

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