Zongshen 宗申产业集团有限公司

**MJH** · 04-13-2013, 03:51 AM

They really are not saying very much; other then every once in a while, something comes along that is different, I wonder if cocaine was involved in the making of that video.

A real CBR150 has a DOHC 4-valve water cooled fuel injected engine. They sell at retail for about the same price in South East Asia as the AKT RTX does in Columbia. The Honda 149.4cc engine has quite bit more power then the copies made in China.

Thing about cocaine is it makes things seem better then they really are….

**Kennon** · 04-13-2013, 10:57 AM

even so i'm surprised how exact the cbr clone is.

Kennon

**xtoss** · 04-13-2013, 07:07 PM

I think its called "ycr"... Im surprise how Honda haven't act on it yet..... Well maybe because of china's "no copyright policy". If any chinese mc manufacturer will come up w/ an class A imitation of the '13 ninja 250r i will be definitely first in line:) i wont be that surprise though.... They kindda did that with the chinese version of yamaha R6 and R1.... It sells around 18k now......

**Kennon** · 04-13-2013, 07:39 PM

Honda must be flattered that most the motorcycles in china are based on a honda engine but annoyed that its not there products being bought.

Kennon

**MJH** · 04-14-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by xtoss

I think its called "ycr"... Im surprise how Honda haven't act on it yet..... Well maybe because of china's "no copyright policy". If any chinese mc manufacturer will come up w/ an class A imitation of the '13 ninja 250r i will be definitely first in line:) i wont be that surprise though.... They kindda did that with the chinese version of yamaha R6 and R1.... It sells around 18k now......

they did...not sure if you can get one in china though.
http://www.hisunmotors.com/VETTURINO-250-SPORT-BIKE.html#.VoB4FBUrK1s

**MJH** · 04-14-2013, 03:22 PM

There is allot of content on the matter…here is one article of many.

http://www.managingip.com/Article/27...and-Honda.html

**MJH** · 04-14-2013, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Kennon

Honda must be flattered that most the motorcycles in china are based on a honda engine but annoyed that its not there products being bought.

Kennon

Honda has about 8% of the domestic market in Wuyang and Sundiro, Suzuki and its partners have a larger market share.
Honda's also command higher retail prices then the domestic brands and in that they likely make more profit. There must be some reason Honda does not manufacture more in china, maybe they see something nobody else does? Maybe the lion share of sales are very basic transportation.

**MJH** · 04-14-2013, 03:55 PM

They choose what to make and where to make them very conservatively, they have to be centric to global markets, they like Thailand for that center of affordable manufacturing. They use decision making criteria that optimizes profit and minimizes risks.

Zonghen also has a venture in Thailand and the lack of refinement, of that very expensive endeavor, is apparent in the JV’s website.
http://www.zongshenthailand.com/

Thailand allows solely owned foreign operation, in the face of Asian financial crisis of 1997 Thailand did two things, they began to allow direct solely owned manufacturing and also reduced the corporate taxes.
The results of that are obvious today.

**MJH** · 04-14-2013, 04:20 PM

Ryuka Z-ONE RK200

Something is wrong, bet when you attempt to communicate from Chinese to Thai and back it all goes to the wrong place? They have not updated the Thai website since 2011? Solution…put the new offerings on face book?

That is a Z-one with a 200cc OHC engine, my guess is it will be eventually offered in Thailand.

That engine case looks familar...also comes in a 223cc OHC