Loncin 重庆隆鑫机车有限公司

**Zorge** · 04-05-2015, 12:22 PM

Hryvna is capsizing. Retail price is approx. 1300 euros ("Mototek" from Dneprpetrovsk - 33,595 hryvnas, "Prosto Velo Moto" Kiev - 1400 bucks, "Moto Hata" Kiev - 1420 bucks, "Moto Chopper" Hmel'nickii - in crate, 1385 bucks...)

**MJH** · 04-05-2015, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Zorge

Hryvna is capsizing. Retail price is approx. 1300 euros ("Mototek" from Dneprpetrovsk - 33,595 hryvnas, "Prosto Velo Moto" Kiev - 1400 bucks, "Moto Hata" Kiev - 1420 bucks, "Moto Chopper" Hmel'nickii - in crate, 1385 bucks...)

so then these prices have not been updated to reflect the real prices?
The prices on the site are they real at around 500.00 USD at wholesale?

With the currency worth so little I would not expect any new models to be imported it is not possible.

**Zorge** · 04-06-2015, 04:15 AM

Obviously.

How likely is it that 250 cc "Loncin" costs, even at wholesale, about $ 500?

Although, in turbulent times for the economy, in the regions, for expressing prices, they often use so-called "conventional units" ("условная единица", abbreviated - У.Е, (latin script U.E.; upper or lower case - doesn't matter)), where 1 "unit" is 1 US dollar. In this manner, as a buyer, you will not be misled.

**MJH** · 04-06-2015, 09:14 AM

WOW those are bargain prices.
http://motohata.net.ua/

So can these be taken out of the Ukraine, not likely. I believe I can purchase in Poland and then register it into any other EU country, but the Ukraine no for sure.

**Zorge** · 04-06-2015, 01:15 PM

No one in Ukraine will stop you to take with you goods you legally bought. At the very least - why would someone do that?

Problem can be in EU and their regulations, not only those certificates of conformity, homologations etc., but plain administrative restrictions.

We can ask "beniamin82" is it possible to buy bike in Poland, and then, get plates and ride it in, for example, in Germany. I would not be surprised that this is not possible, not to mention "Ukrainian connection".

**beniamin82** · 04-06-2015, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Zorge

We can ask "beniamin82" is it possible to buy bike in Poland, and then, get plates and ride it in, for example, in Germany. I would not be surprised that this is not possible, not to mention "Ukrainian connection".

I will check the issue with ukraine. I have workers from ukraine. I thought once to buy there a chineese bike. All i known now you musi Pay import custom (?), and if this model ia not eu certified you must certify it. It costs about 250$ in Poland. You can import one vehicle a year and certify it for privet use.

**beniamin82** · 04-06-2015, 09:28 PM

Within Europe you can buy a new or used bike wherever you will, and plate it in country where you live. For example you can buy an English car (where they are traveling on the left side of the road) and plate it in all EU countries even if you live in a country where you drive on the right side. .
There are no customs, you must just have the buy agreement in both languages.

**MJH** · 04-07-2015, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by beniamin82

Within Europe you can buy a new or used bike wherever you will, and plate it in country where you live. For example you can buy an English car (where they are traveling on the left side of the road) and plate it in all EU countries even if you live in a country where you drive on the right side. .
There are no customs, you must just have the buy agreement in both languages.

I understand, but the Ukriane is not in the EU and not everything sold there meet emissions in the EU.
It may or may not and without a certificate from the manufacturer or it already being approved for the EU it would have to be inspected and AS for testing emissions it may not pass, its Chinese.

**beniamin82** · 04-07-2015, 08:58 AM

If have the time to rad... http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...LEX:32002L0024
It is very complicated and not worth the work.
But the authorized unit for vehicle research for unitary release told me that they must just certify parts they are not certified yet in EU.
So i think that you can find all the parts from chineese bikes already in Europe. But as i say it is not worth the job to do.

**MJH** · 04-07-2015, 11:13 AM

If I buy a vehicle in another state I then get a transport tag, I use that to get it back to my home state and then register it, it gets titled in the state it is purchased and a temporary registration, then the title is transferred to the residence state.
In Poland is there a title process. What if you have a lien on a vehicle how is that recorded, here you only get the title when you own it outright, as in paid cash, if you borrowed to buy it then you get a memorandum title until the loan is paid in full.
Does Poland offer temporary registrations for transporting to another EU state, If I buy a EVO 300 Junak in Poland it has to conform to all EU standards. I do not live in Poland I do not need to register it there I do not have residency there. I only need registration to ride it and it gets registered later in another EU state that I have residency in.
The same would be true for the Ukraine, if the model sold in the Ukraine was an EU conforming model.
What matters is that the vehicle is on the EU list as conforming and that the country of purchase offers temporary registration. If they do not then it has to be shipped and then it is not worth it.

Taxes get paid on registration, I would think.