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  1. #21 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    I get no respect...

    These were called a CB400SS

    http://motorcycle.goobike.com/motorc...s/summary.html
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  2. #22 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    Honda made that very simple model in a lot of colors, they typically offered different colors with each year.
    They stopped making them just a couple of years ago, they now offer different 400s one of which is the CB400F which is the same as the CB500F made in Thailand, the CB500F is really a 470cc the scaled down versions are always specific for Japan that has high insurance rates for over 400cc.
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  3. #23 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    They are calling them the ChungKing 400B, kind of a tongue in cheek name no?
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  4. #24 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    They are also now offering the DOHC engine in a sport bike.


    These are are sharing parts with the Daelim VJF250. The Daelim is offered in the UK through MotoGP OTR 2,999.00 Sterling, $4,880.00 USD, its EFI and EIII compliant.
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    The radial four valve is hardly the perfect engine for a sport bike. However in the Chinese motorcycle industry there are no hard rules, so they are working on a Aldine 400c according to some Brazilians?





    Basically a GS500 without the twin...with a honda 400cc single instead.
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  7. #27 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    With their average unit selling out of the factory for under $550.00 USD Xinyuan is selling allot of cheap bikes someplace? Very cheap actually, but not having all the data we cannot see how many of 250 DOHC they sold and for how much, but with such a low stated average unit value it seems the higher cost bikes are fractional to what they sell for much less. But then accountancy in China is different and I’ve been informed that China does not count a CKD as an exported motorcycle which is likely how they ship them to Brazil. The sales would be recorded as parts and so would the revenue, probably.


    Moral of the story is that selling more substantial offerings, less of them and selling them for more money and with the same margins retains the same total revenue. In example 2% of 2000 or 2% of 500, ratio is that of 1:4 or could say a 75% reduction in production units and retain the same total revenue. Then could also say that with less production you cut labor and let the worst workers go and give the rest a raise. Then the margin on each could go up if you cut cost and retain consistent revenue streams.


    Did I get any of this wrong or is it all Chinese for some?
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  8. #28 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    The Aldene/Chief/Roadwin seems to me to be based on a Suzuki GS500, the frame seems to be.


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    Original08_GS500K8_3_4Blue by mjhirz, on Flickr


    Here is the Shineray with a CB125 engine. WK bike sell these in the UK as their 125R 1,699 Sterling
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    Dailem uses a different 125 then the Shineray. MotoGP sells these in the UK for 2,229 Sterling they have EFI.
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  9. #29 Re: Shineray 重庆鑫源摩托车股份有限公司 
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    The 400B looks like a nice bike. Exhaust seems a bit of a Friday arvo job though, but at least it won't burn a hole in your saddlebag. With a pair of decent shocks , good tires a nice can and maybe some lower bars , one could go far ...
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    that 400b... it begs for modification... and I bloody want one! any idea on pricing?
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