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  1. #21 Re: ZF-KYMCO 西藏新珠峰摩托车有限公司 
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    Kymco stopped offering motorcycles in the USA, you can still get a new 2009 Quannon 150, they are still advertising them on Cycle trader.

    These come with a 150cc 4-valve rated at about 14.5hp.


    The other bike Kymco offered at one time, to the US market, was the VENOX 250 which was their version of a
    Honda VT250
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  2. #22 Re: ZF-KYMCO 西藏新珠峰摩托车有限公司 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorge View Post
    I do not know why, but on sites of most Chinese factories, such mopeds/mokicks are in the section with classic underbones.
    You recognize these?

    Its a moped, it has pedals, but still an underbone.
    I do not see pedals on the Colt do you, where I reside to be legally classified as a moped it has to have peddles and under 1 braking hp and or a top speed of 20mph.

    This does not have peddles, it has a gear shifter.

    I always wondered what the "C" in CUB stood for.
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    Yes, "underbonе" is "form factor", but I use that word in order to avoid to call Cub - a Cub, because it is still the name of only one popular model. But yes - I think that this turquoise two-wheeler can not be categorized as Cub. He is mokick (motor - kickstarter).

    The laws are different in different countries. This category "pedals, up to 1 h.p., up to 20 mph" does not exist in most European countries (perhaps in Germany still exist their MoFa two-wheeler class; I don't know), has long been agreed to standard "up to 50 cc and up to 45 kph", regardless of starting method and type of transmission.
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    Yeah these look like a classic Vespa Moped but they are not Mopeds though they are auto shifters. Moped have one speed, twist and go and pedal if you are going to slow.
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  5. #25 Re: ZF-KYMCO 西藏新珠峰摩托车有限公司 
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    Well, not always one speed. My first motor driven two-wheeler, '82. Tomos Automatic 3M, had a centrifugal clutch and two gears, where the engine switch into second gear when bike reaches 22-23 kph. Oh, and you could choose version with pedals and with kickstarter.

    BTW, Piaggio's models such are Si, Grande, Ciao, Grillo, Superbravo, etc - they all are with CVTs.
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    As usual we go way off the track…..


    These sell for $250-300 each out of China and come with a 50cc, I think they need a 110cc at least they would for me to keep up with traffic at 50cc I think I would get run over in the city, they need to go 40-45mph, I do not believe the claims of top speed for the 50cc of 60-80kph

    They also sell them as a FOX?

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    The ZF250 actually looks pretty good, I really cannot see anything wrong with it. Nothing looks like a copy of anything else, the bits look really good on it.

    I believe it has a DOHC it is rated at 19.5 hp and they say it has a CV carburetor, I like to see the gauge cluster they avoid any images of the gauges? . But they have images of the rest and all the part look to be of good quality.


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    Stock 50cc horizontal can reach 50-55 kph, 70cc - some 70 kph, 110 - 80-85 kph.

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    I like to see the gauge cluster they avoid any images of the gauges?
    Here you go.

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    Anyone care to guess why it is that the KYMCO K-PIPE 125 is being sold as the K-PIE in China?



    They could have called it the K-PI, then somebody may have found the divergence as entertaining for a reason less...stupid?
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    ZF-KYMCO’s Halawa 200

    Bajaj Pulsar 135

    The Bajaj sells for under $900.00 USD in India, It also comes with a 13.5hp four valve OHC engine.
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