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  1. #11 Re: Haojin 广州豪进摩托车股份有限公司 
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    Oh my, a pleasant surprise - original chinese design.
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  3. #13 Re: Haojin 广东大冶摩托车技术有限公司 
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    ClementsMoto also holds the trademark for Motoroma, that is the brand that Senke sells under in the UK. So the Tayo and Senke come to the UK though one enterprise that being ClementsMoto.


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    The Sk150-9 SENKE looks like it has the same engine, then it could be that these two manufacturers share a common source for their engines.
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    Then again here in the Senke SK150-8 you see a form of the Haojiang Tiger.
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    It seems that we are not far away from solving another mystery - whose is 250 cc engine on the Senke SK 250 X6 and who designed it.
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    That makes me think that the Senke 223cc single engine in the SK250 model came through that same development channel.



    So you have manufactures in china sharing a source of development and components, then they converge again in the distribution in the UK Market. There is likely a shared logistics company in the middle that would be a trading company.


    Seeing 125cc Senkes offered in Africa all day long for $700.00 retail, the factory is not likely making much profit on those are they, probably very small percentages, 1-2% I would estimate.
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    I would like this design:



    With that 223cc engine, they can have two exhausts one on each side since that engine has a twin exhaust port.

    I would prefer it say Haojiang or Senke on it, not any other brand.
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    Its just my opinion, but if a bike looks like its fast then it should actually be fast. If it’s a commuter then it should look like a commuter. The Haojing design with a 223cc to me makes more sense for Romet to offer then the SK250 that looks like a sport bike, but really is not, the SK250 also does not fit well into the Romet line, its not that they should not make it, but if they used the engine in other models then they could get greater economy of scale in its production. Then they also increase the demand for the components and again improve the economy of scale.


    The other issue that concerns me is that if the SK250 can be sold in Poland then why not in the UK? It could be that its futuristic design does not appeal to everyone, its not design neutral it is what could be called fashion forward and to conventional people that can actually irritate them. That as a matter of assuming opposed to being unassuming, if it looks fast it should really be fast.


    Some could sell their 125cc L and opt up to a low cost 223cc, getting a bit more for a bit more. Then there are also conventional thinkers that simply want a commuter and they are beyond the L and may ride in the L class simply because no over 125cc that are low cost are available.


    If it is conventional looking it may attract more people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    Seeing 125cc Senkes offered in Africa all day long for $700.00 retail, the factory is not likely making much profit on those are they, probably very small percentages, 1-2% I would estimate.
    As far as I understand, in Africa are also popular Chinese clones of two-stroker Suzuki AX 100. I believe that the retail price is even lower.
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