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  1. #21 Re: Haojin 广东大冶摩托车技术有限公司 
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    I know I have noticed those as well, I would think a 100cc 2-stroke would have good acceleration. But they are so dirty, look at the smoke coming out, its not a good thing.


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  2. #22 Re: Haojin 广东大冶摩托车技术有限公司 
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    So they sell that 200cc in Iran under the brand Matin Khodro
    The models is a Savin MKZ200, that's rated at 16 hp a little better then the Suzuki 200cc which they also sell.

    It looks like they are assembling those in Iran?

    The engines are called TY engines, they are from TYAN, they make allot of OHV engines. These are their OHC's nice, based on the prices of the bikes that have these they are not expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    ... they are from TYAN, they make allot of OHV engines...
    Most OHV in domestic Haojiang (made by TYAN) bike is 13mm pin/ thinner rings unlike the traditional one. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12567977409
    The Tyan 223 can be bought at ~3k RMB. http://www.motorfans.com.cn/bbs/view...uthorid=243880
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    I know I have noticed those as well, I would think a 100cc 2-stroke would have good acceleration. But they are so dirty, look at the smoke coming out, its not a good thing.
    I guess it goes like any other bike with 8-10 h.p. two stroke engine and mass of 80-90 kilos. Up to 60 or 70 km/h, it should not be inferior to the 125/150 4T bikes. Not to mention that this engine have seven and a half moving parts and virtually almost nothing can go wrong.

    "Smoke effects" are easy solvable problem - this engine should be able to run with a 2-2,5% mixture of quality low smoke 2T oil, because con rod on both ends have needle bearings. Plus, you can use Ipone's 2T oil which gives smoke with a scent of strawberries... ...so, while you ride, you can sing "Strawberry fields forever".

    Either way, I think we need a topic dedicated to the Chinese two-stroke engines.

    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    It looks like they are assembling those in Iran?
    For that we have the right man at the forum - http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/me...17-Nima-Naderi

    Quote Originally Posted by humanbeing View Post
    Most OHV in domestic Haojiang (made by TYAN) bikeis 13mm pin/ thinner rings unlike the traditional one.
    Is it the same case with their OHC engines?
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    I cannot figure out why the motorcycle cost so much less in Poland?

    Romet Motors is offering some twins a 250cc and a 150cc
    The Romet R250, it's list price is about $2,500.00


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  6. #26 Re: Haojin 广东大冶摩托车技术有限公司 
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    I am convinced that Romet, as domestic manufacturer, is exempted from paying import taxes, plus, production prices of these bikes are not so high. That way, retail price can be affordable.

    But I think the price for these twins is still too high. Look at this:



    This is the off-season discount from our local importer. Twin cylinder bikes, Prince 125 and 250 are not Haojin's, but Jinlun's. Still, the retail price is very interesting: 125 ~ $1,230 and 250 ~ $1,590.

    Add another $ 100 for the license plates, registration sticker, mandatory insurance, etc., and... that's all.
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    That would be $2,400.00 USD for that Challenger and $1,800.00 USD for the Prince 125.
    The Jinlun is a V twin though. (14K/5.90) about 2,400 USD.


    The Raptors are not cheap, the 350 is $5,540.00 USD.


    What is the prices of the 200cc Qingqi there?
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    I admit, I'm confused... About which prices are you talking about?

    Using this currency converter - http://www.xe.com/ucc/ I converted retail prices of two Princes in Serbian dinars (rsd) to U.S. dollars. And again, Sprint Prince 125 aka. Jinlun JL 125-11 costs approximately one thousand two hundred thirty dollars, and Sprint Prince 250 aka. Jinlun JL 250-5 (as well as Sprint Challenger aka. Jinlun JL 250 V), costs approximately one thousand five hundred ninety dollars.

    The original Jinan QingQi's are not in the market for several years, and this same company sells Pioneer's 125 and 200 cc supermotards for about two thousand U.S. dollars. Simply, they showed a certain quality and their price is higher than the unreliable 2008 model (yes, they are in storage for three or four years) Sprint Apollo 250 aka. Zhejiang Apollo AGB-36 (~1,180.00 USD).
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    Oh I used Kunas, I should have noticed they are in Serbia, that is very inexpensive.
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    Oh, you joker...
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