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  1. #21 Re: Importing motorcycles from abroad into PR China 
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    [XLS] china tariff schedule vis-a-vis thailand.xls - FTA

    www.thaifta.com/thaifta/.../China/china%20tariff%20schedule%20vis...
    File Format: Microsoft Excel
    669, 27101922, 271019, Fuel oil No.5 to No.7 (National Code), 6, 5, 6. 670, 27101929, 271019, Diesel oils & preparations thereof and other fuel oils, nes, 6, 5, 6 ...

    that is also outdated, dated 2005 has the rates at 45-48
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  2. #22 Re: Importing motorcycles from abroad into PR China 
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    Here is the source
    http://www.thaifta.com/ThaiFTA/

    that site has allot of information related to the proposed FTA.
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  3. #23 Re: Importing motorcycles from abroad into PR China 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJH View Post
    Here is the source
    http://www.thaifta.com/ThaiFTA/

    that site has allot of information related to the proposed FTA.
    Note the key word... cause for now it doesn't exist... so a lot of hot air going on here, much a-do about nothing... at the end of the day PRC authorities will charge what they see fit as and when something lands on their turf. Everything I wrote in my OP remains valid... and FTA's are only one small part of the equation. I'm a NZer and NZ is the first industrialised country to both recognise PRC and also enter into a FTA with the government of PR China. When I reviewed the FTA between NZ and PRC, in the hope that bringing in a motorcycle without duty was possible... I was somewhat disappointed, since it is and it isn't. Firstly the duties are rolled back to lesser and lesser amounts over multiple years. But even then the motorcycle must be 100% manufactured in NZ to then enjoy no duty status, only the Britten would possibly apply. Meanwhile the Chinese side got all the cards...
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    Yeah the country of origin is were it is actually manufactured.

    The tariff base for a 50cc Vespa into Thailand is 60% and for Vietnam is 75% these are big markets and also they are seeking to establish industry within them.


    http://www.dutycalculator.com/hs-cod...1.10.0000/606/


    Comparably China's base rate is 45% on an import of a 50cc scooter.


    I would say that the base rate is 45-48 all classes with 8711 and Thailand gets 5%-8% off that base.

    I would not advise anyone to import a grey market motorcycle without having some connections in the government.

    I do not think they should drop the rates on imports, I believe they need to get control of licenses and establish viable market regions, that are legal and 100% legitimate.


    Expanding a tiered system is not likely to happen with such a large rural underclass that is so dependent on motorcycles. Adding color coded plates and any system to verify at a stop and with strict penalties and fines for violations, would get overrun, the population works overtime trying to get around any system, enforcing a tiered system would be very complicated and likely inundated with fake plates.


    The color coded plates would need to be priced high enough to restrict access to incomes within the urban middle class. That being priced so high that not all will buy the license only those that can afford it would buy it.


    The imports tariffs being lowered will solve nothing with respects to the Chinese motorcycle industry. Allowing greater access to ownership would and also they should allow independent foreign manufacturing within China as well.
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    The entire country being green, then all the restricted areas on a GPS map would be red and the areas with special plating then represented in yellow. The object would be to allow yellow plates in red areas, converting the red areas to yellow would increase sales of midrange and larger displacement motorcycles.


    All retailing within a yellow area would need to be licensed as a urban dealer and only be able to offer yellow plates.
    Retail dealer in green areas could offer both, the price of a yellow plate would need to be regulated to prevent the restricted areas from being overrun with rural to urban commuters.


    Then it would also require better documentation of manufactures and the products they sell, urban and rural classification should be different, the emissions on urban class should be stricter not based on engine size it should be based on emission output. Yellow or urban plates should require inspections and in that safety and emission tests.
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    G'Day,


    Over the last week checked into another import bike (2013 model) and contacted a well known China based motorbike importer for quotes (all inclusive deal: bike, import tax / handling, registration tax, basic insurance, registration Shanghai "C" plate and all handling charges, etc...etc...). Gave up on the import bike project and switched to my back-up plan (always good to have one in this lovely country)....

    Here are some bike quotes as reference (Shanghai "C" rego + plate around 14000RMB this week).

    Honda-XR650L / MSRP: 145000 RMB (OTR: 168650 RMB)
    Yamaha-WR450F / MSRP: 158000 RMB (OTR: 169350 RMB)
    Yamaha-WR250F / MSRP: 145000 RMB (OTR: 168650 RMB)


    Sidenote: was informed by several reliable sources that import taxes vary between bikes due to different engine displacements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TB-Racing View Post
    We have 3-4 motorbike "importer... dealer... distributor" around Shanghai region doing exactly the same as you write in your post, warranty and service work is the main obstacle but they are legally imported brand-new bikes and they can be plated and registered in Shanghai or elsewhere.....
    do u mind sharing the specific importers to us....would greatly appreciate it
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtoss View Post
    do u mind sharing the specific importers to us....would greatly appreciate it
    http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/search.php mostly all on the MCM forum already.....
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    March 2013.

    One of the most important issues facing companies and individuals conducting trade with China is the subject of taxes and duties imposed on goods imported into and exported out of the country. This is a complex subject. Rates and regulations differ from product to product, however there are general tax principles to follow, and what follows is an outline of the most important issues foreign companies & individuals should be aware of below.

    Importing to and exporting from China generally involves three types of taxes:Value-added tax;
    1. Consumption tax; and
    2. Customs duties.

    1. Value-added Tax for Imported Goods
    Imported goods to China are subject to value-added tax (VAT), and the applicable tax rates are the same as those applied to goods sold within the domestic market (i.e. 17 percent, and 13 percent for some goods). VAT is payable on the day of customs clearance.
    The input VAT imposed on importing goods can be used to deduct the output VAT paid when the imported goods are sold in the domestic market.

    2. Consumption Tax for Imported Goods

    Items subject to consumption tax (CT) include luxury products such as high-end watches, non-renewable petroleum products such as diesel oil, and high-energy consumption products such as passenger cars and motorcycles.

    Import CT is collected either on an ad valorem basis or quantity basis, with tax rates and amounts varying greatly. CT should be paid within 15 days from the day that Customs issues the Import CT Bill of Payment.

    3. Customs Duties

    Customs duties include import duties and export duties, with a total of 8,238 items taxed, according to China’s 2013 Customs Tariff Implementation Plan (“2013 Tariff Plan”). Customs duties are computed either on an ad valorem basis or quantity basis.

    Import Duties
    Duty rates on import goods consist of: Most-favored-nation duty (MFN) rates;

    • Conventional duty rates;
    • Special preferential duty rates;
    • General duty rates;
    • Tariff rate quota (TRQ) duty rates; and
    • Temporary duty rates.

    MFN duty rates
    MFN rates are the most commonly adopted import duty rates. They are much lower than the general rates which apply to non-MFN nations. They apply to the following goods:

    • Goods imported to China from WTO member countries;
    • Goods originating from countries or territories which have concluded bilateral trade agreements containing provisions on MFN treatment with China; and
    • Goods that originated from China.

    Conventional duty rates
    Conventional duty rates are applied to imported goods that originate from countries or territories that have entered into regional trade agreements containing preferential provisions on duty rates with China. Under the 2013 Tariff Plan:

    • 1,875 imported goods originating from South Korea, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Lao adopt the Asia-Pacific Trade Agreement conventional duty rates.
    • Certain commodities from members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), Chile, Pakistan, New Zealand, Singapore, Peru and Costa Rica are subject to conventional duty rates under the relevant free trade agreements.
    • Some imports from Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan enjoy tariff-free policies.

    Special preferential duty rates
    Special preferential duty rates are applied to imported goods originating from countries or territories with trade agreements containing special preferential duty provisions with China. They are generally lower than MFN rates and conventional duty rates.

    Under the 2013 Tariff Plan, special preferential duty rates are applied to certain goods originating from 40 Least Developed Countries as classified by the United Nations. These countries include Ethiopia, Rwanda and Afghanistan.

    General duty rates

    General duty rates are applied to imported goods originating from countries or territories that are not covered in any agreements or treaties, or of unknown places of origin.

    Tariff rate quota duty rates
    Under tariff rate quota (TRQ) schemes, lowered tariff rates are applied to products imported within the quota. For example, according to the 2013 Tariff Plan, the TRQ rate for importing wheat within the quota is 1 percent, substantially lower than the MFN duty rate of 65 percent and the general duty rate of 80 percent.

    Temporary duty rates

    Occasionally, China sets temporary duty rates for certain imported goods. To boost imports and meet domestic demand in 2013, China implemented temporary tax rates lower than the MFN tariff on more than 780 imported commodities, including seasoning products, pacemakers, special-formula infant milk powder, and resources including kaolin, alfalfa and eiderdown.

    Other duty rates
    Considerably higher rates may be implemented according to Chinese regulations regarding anti-dumping, anti-subsidies, and safeguard measures. Retaliatory tariffs could also be applied to goods originating from countries or regions that violate trade agreements with China.

    Place of Origin

    In order to apply the correct tariff rate, it is necessary to first determine the place of origin of the goods. According to China’s place of origin regulations, where goods are completely sourced from one country (or territory), that country will be the place of origin of the goods, e.g. live animals born and bred, plants harvested, and minerals excavated in the country.

    Where the goods are produced in two or more countries or territories, the country or territory where the goods undergo a final substantial change and completion is the place of origin of the goods.

    The basic standard for determining “substantial change” is a change in tariff classification. Supplementary standards for determining “substantial change” include the ad valorem percentage method, which tests the value added percentage in the manufacturing or processing carried out in the country other than the country of the original materials.

    Processing and treatment carried out for purposes of evading anti-dumping, anti-subsidy and safeguard measures will be disregarded. Customs is entitled to request a certificate of origin, i.e. a written document issued by the exporting country or territory stipulating the place of origin of the goods.

    Duty Relief

    Duty relief includes statutory duty relief, policy-based duty relief (or special tariff relief ), and temporary duty relief. Some items exempt from duties under statutory duty relief are:The duty amount to be paid for one consignment of goods if it is below RMB50.

    • Advertising materials and trade samples of no commercial value.

    Some goods are exempt from duties if they are re-exported or re-imported within six months after the import or export, for example:

    • Goods to be exhibited or used at exhibitions, trade fairs, conferences and other similar events.
    • Instruments, equipment and items to be used for scientific research and educational and medical activities.
    • Other goods to be used for non-commercial purposes.

    Policy-based duty relief includes:

    • Scientific educational supplies;
    • Special products for the disabled;
    • Poverty alleviation supplies and charity donations;
    • Processing trade products; and
    • Goods traded in free trade zones and export processing zones.

    Under special circumstances, the State Council may provide temporary duty relief for certain categories or batches of goods.

    Duty Paying Value for Imported Goods

    The amount of import taxes and customs duty payable is calculated based on the price or value of the imported goods. This value is called the duty paying value (DPV). DPV is determined based on the transacted price of the goods – i.e. the actual price directly and indirectly paid or payable by the domestic buyer to the foreign seller, with certain required adjustments.

    DPV includes transportation-related expenses and insurance premiums on the goods prior to unloading at the place of arrival in China. Import duties and taxes collected by Customs are excluded from DPV.

    Calculating Import Taxes and Duties Payable

    Import taxes and duties can be calculated after determining the DPV and the tax and tariff rates of the goods. The formulae are:

    1. Value-added tax

    • VAT payable = Composite assessable price × VAT rate

    Composite assessable price can be calculated as follows:

    • Composite assessable price = DPV + Import duty + CT; or
    • Composite assessable price = (DPV + Import duty)/ (1 – CT rate)

    2. Consumption tax
    Ad valorem basis:

    • CT Payable = Composite assessable price × CT rate
    • Composite assessable price = (DPV + Import duty)/ (1 – CT rate)

    Quantity-based:

    • CT Payable = Quantity of taxable goods × Tax amount per unit

    Compound formula:

    • CT payable = Composite assessable price × CT rate +Quantity of taxable goods × Tax amount per unit
    • Composite assessable price = (DPV + Import duty + Quantity of taxable goods × Tax amount per unit) / (1- CT rate)

    3. Import duties
    Ad valorem basis:

    • Duty payable = DPV × Tariff rate

    Quantity-based:

    • Duty payable = Quantity of imported goods × Amount of duty per unit

    Compound formula:

    • Duty payable = DPV x Tariff rate + Quantity of imported goods x Amount of duty per unit

    Import taxes and duty payable should be calculated in RMB using the benchmark exchange rate published by the People’s Bank of China.

    Export Duties
    Export duties are only imposed on a few resource products and semi-manufactured goods. In 2013, China continues to levy temporary tariffs on exports including coal, crude oil, chemical fertilizers and iron alloy to conserve resources.

    The tax base for export duties are the same as import duties – i.e. the DPV. The DPV for export duties is based on transacted price, i.e. the lump sum price receivable by the domestic seller exporting the goods to the buyer. Export duties, freight-related expenses and insurance fees after loading at the export spot, and commissions borne by the seller are excluded.

    Source: http://www.china-briefing.com
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    In other words, "Don't even think about importing a bike..."

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