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#1 Exhaust can for Qingqi QM200GY (aka Qlink, etc)
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12-08-2008, 06:43 PMHere's some photos of the "Universal Stainless can" marketed by Xian Racing (UK) fitted to my Qingqi QM200GY-BA.
Apart from the cool looks and errr...robust sound...the main difference is the performance. You will not believe the difference in throttle response, acceleration and general driveability.
This stems from the elimination of the restrictive catalyser insert inside the factory system and associated Secondary air injection gubbins. Up till now I was most dissatisfied with the sluggish throttle response which I put down to the CV-type carb and even considered changing it for a slide-type carb.
No need. The engine now responds instantly to the twistgrip and the rev-counter can't keep up...
These oxidation catalyser systems have been adopted by makers using old-fashioned engines and carbs as a quick, easy and inexpensive measure to comply with European emission regulations, never mind what they do to performance and driveability.
This is a similar situation that the cars of the late 80's had when the primitive catalyser systems knocked off as much as 8 bhp on small European car engines. God knows how much power large American V8's lost. Nowadays well-researched and developed 3-way catalysts, Lambda probes and electronic fuel injection do not have such problems.
You will get all sort of spurious claims for power increases with after-market items such as this exhaust, but in the case of this 200 cc range of bikes I figure the power gained is in the region of 2.6 bhp, that's nearly 15%.
The only other mods have been the increase of main jet from 122.5 to 125 and the slow jet from 32.5 to 35. Suzuki Part numbers for these jets are 09491-25010 and 09492-35008 respectively. If you buy them from a Mikuni dealer, the carb type is a BST28.
The fitting is incredibly simple with virtually no mods required and its stainless steel construction means it will outlast me...
I have been researching about this bike, as I do with all my vehicles, and have found that the South American versions do not have the emissions gear. Everything else remains the same. The quoted power output is 18 bhp. The units destined for the EU only make 15.4 bhp. This is all due to the restrictions imposed by the emission laws.
This is the link for the can. I don't know wether they'll ship abroad, but you could ask (they now will ship abroad, see message number 8). The price is £64.99 which is considerably less than other makes I can think of:
http://xian.west-wire.co.uk/index.ph...d&productId=13
I hope nobody minds if I repeat here the list of alternative names these bikes are sold with. This is to enable Google searches to find this forum and this information. Here goes:
In USA it's the QLINK XF200
In Brasil STX 200 Motard Sundown
In the UK it appears as:
Pulse Adrenaline 125 (XF125GY-2B)
Sinnis Apache QM200GY
and Superbyke RMR200
In Chile/Colombia QMT200 or GXT Euromot
In the Philippines it's a Sinski Motard 200R
In Paraguay Genesis GXT200 B
In Honduras a KMF
In Spain it's marketed by Qingqi importer direct or I-moto as a Tiger sm 125
In Turkey it's a Ramzey QM200GY
In Checkoslovakia it's a YUKI 250 SM
In Russia it's called QINGQI DRAGON 200 SUPERMOTO
In France Hooper 125 SMR
In Germany it's imported by Kreidler as a Supermoto 125 DD
In Australia Arqin motorcycles RT200SM
In Sweden and Norway they call it a TMS Supermotard 200cc
In the Ukraine its a SkyMoto Dragon-200
In South Africa its a Viper 200Last edited by forchetto; 02-08-2009 at 03:21 AM.
Jincheng Monkey JC50Q-7
Skyteam Dax replica ST110-6
Zongshen ZS125-43
Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard
Qingqi QM110GY
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12-09-2008, 01:21 AM
Forchetto, the new can looks really good, not to mention the performance improvement. I would love to get one. Unfortunately for me, The Xian Racer team don't ship outside of UK (Europe), at least not yet. Which is a real shame.
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Kinlon 2008 200GY-SM
Honda 2003 CB250
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12-09-2008, 02:33 AM
Forchetto,
That's a sweet lookin' can. Did you try riding with the stock jetting before you went from 122.5 to 125 and 32.5 to 34 ? Just curios how well the bike runs with a new can and stock jets.
Nice work!
Cheers!
ChinaV
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#4 Exhaust Qingqi QM200GY Jetting changes
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12-09-2008, 09:36 AMThe bike ran perfectly with the stock 122.5 main jet but being a bit anal I increased it a little bit just in case. It seems the thing to do when modifying inlet or exhaust elements.
I read somewhere about a rule of thumb requiring a 10% jet increase when removing airboxes and fitting pod-type filters and a further 5% for a freer-breathing can.
The idle jet had already being changed to cure a weak mixture condition that meant the driveability and tickover suffered due to the usual weak factory settings to comply with emissions.
The idle screw came 2.5 turns out already from the factory and had no more adjusting range. With the 35 jet the screw is around 1.5 turns and has its full range of adjustment.Last edited by forchetto; 12-09-2008 at 12:10 PM.
Jincheng Monkey JC50Q-7
Skyteam Dax replica ST110-6
Zongshen ZS125-43
Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard
Qingqi QM110GY
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12-09-2008, 09:40 AMI got to know the owner, Gareth, through another UK based forum and begged him to send me the can to Spain. Luckily I was able to arrange secure transport through a carrier that my company already uses to bring goods from the UK.
That's their real problem, they've had problems with parcels getting lost in the post and, as a small company they say they can't afford such loses. I suppose if they used "quality" carriers such as UPS, etc the cost of their products would increase dramatically.Jincheng Monkey JC50Q-7
Skyteam Dax replica ST110-6
Zongshen ZS125-43
Qingqi QM200GY-BA Super Motard
Qingqi QM110GY
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12-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Within China itself, these cans area available for only 20-30USD and come in a wide assortment of colors and materials. Some are also produced in Taiwan. Maybe worth contacting an exporter and seeing what minimum shipping quantity is?
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12-10-2008, 02:54 AM
I emailed Gareth at Xian and he said he that they do not ship internationally. However, he also said that "when people take the time to enquire we try and help where we can". Which is fantastic news for me. I will likely order a new can in the new year.
I was thinking while I was at it I could order a few other things from the website. The HT lead caught my eye, so did the CDI. I haven't checked either of the stock on my bike so I am not sure if they even fit. I just want more toys.---------------------------------------------------
Kinlon 2008 200GY-SM
Honda 2003 CB250
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12-20-2008, 07:57 AMHi Forchetto,
I emailed Gareth and the good news is now he is shipping worldwide . Just a question Forchetto, do you have a sound sample? Is it really lounder than with the original one? And finally, does it come complete? I mean do you need to buy something else to install it?
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#9 T4 Pro Circuit Pipe
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06-27-2009, 07:48 PMI like the way that pipe tucks in under the side panel. I just installed T4 Pro Circuit pipe, very easy installation. Pipe is super loud though especially at speed.
Last edited by picotte1; 06-28-2009 at 02:51 AM.
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06-28-2009, 06:00 PMwhat bike is that for, the full exhaust actually fits? any sound clips?
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