MZ lives

[moilami]

Uhhuh, why they make these? Don't they understand that people can go crazy just by seeing a picture of them



449 cc Gas Gas engine, dry weight 118 kg

This is the 2000 century MZ I have been waiting for

[Zorge]

Still, old ETZ 251 or even TS 250 have a more refined design than these tractors.

[moilami]

TS 250 is almost iconic design.


ETZ is though great too, but she does not have that original look.


Take a look at ETZ 250 motor. The cylinder cooling rivets, huge! This engine was made to last.


Oh well, classic MZ biges were excellent. However, the new ZP seems to inherit one or two characteristics of classic MZs. That is, easy maintenance and good driving characteristics. It looks like a small and very agile bike, just like classic MZ bikes are. However, everything else has changed. It is not affordable anymore but rather elitist bike.

Dunno, pisses me anyway. I want to go 30 years back in time when real motorcycles were made instead of crap they do novadays Urals and Enfields excluded.

[moilami]

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOO! I found brand new MZ ETZ 250 from year 1986 for sale in Finland!



Needless to say I emailed the seller at once

Getting that bike would be like winning in lottery.

[Zorge]

About "this engine is built to last" - I still remember article who I have read twenty or more years ago, which was transferred by a local automotive magazine.

German motorcycle magazine "Motorrad" conducted some sort of a survey among his readers, looking for a motorcycle that had the highest mileage. I think the first was some BMW boxer, with an really incredible mileage, and in the top 10, with several BMW's, I saw a pair of MZ ETZ's (or TS's - I don't remember). I was stunned - inexpensive and not so quality East German twostroker left far behind Japanese quartet.

If you are considering buying this blue ETZ, I want to remind you, in my opinion, of a MZ's beautiful, healthy exhaust sound.

[MJH]

The ZP449 is interesting but not for 22.430 EURO!

[moilami]

About "this engine is built to last" - I still remember article who I have read twenty or more years ago, which was transferred by a local automotive magazine.

German motorcycle magazine "Motorrad" conducted some sort of a survey among his readers, looking for a motorcycle that had the highest mileage. I think the first was some BMW boxer, with an really incredible mileage, and in the top 10, with several BMW's, I saw a pair of MZ ETZ's (or TS's - I don't remember). I was stunned - inexpensive and not so quality East German twostroker left far behind Japanese quartet.

If you are considering buying this blue ETZ, I want to remind you, in my opinion, of a MZ's beautiful, healthy exhaust sound.

Hey, MZs are quality bikes. They are very rugged design.

The seller replied to my email, but did not tell the price. How secretative!

There is just one issue with that brand new MZ. It has not been registered ever, and current emission laws in Finland make it impossible to register in Finland. The seller however says that there is an exception in the law which could make registering possible with emission laws from year 1986. I am not sure of that, even though MZ Riders in Finland are very honest and trustworthy people. Will have to do some research in any case since MZ riders can be wrong.

That MZ is a diamond. It does have the most ugly fuel tank ever, too. I do badly want it lol.

[skou]

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOO! I found brand new MZ ETZ 250 from year 1986 for sale in Finland!



Needless to say I emailed the seller at once

Getting that bike would be like winning in lottery.

the same colour and year as my first bike only lacking the hepco-becker rack and cases and the fact that this one has the nva satless..... dam i miss that bike best handling bike ive ever had execpt in a crosswind. Can't we get one of the chinese manufacturers to do one with a 450 4stroke eec approved a sale price of 1500 to 2000dollars ... i know im dreaming

[Zorge]

One interesting thing with MZ riders is that they rarely mod their bikes. On the other hand, MZs does not need modding or fiddling. They are designed perfect in the factory and nothing needs to be changed in them. That's why herecy like in the pic below can leave one wondering what the hell is this

It could be said that the MZ is very rational design. It's hard to considerably improve something, without extensive modifications.

The bikes were very popular...

Still ARE, "after all these years".

Ah, MZ... "My" first motorcycle.

I expected you to say that you started with a 50cc Balkan or something similar.



Right away on MZ - it seems that you were very progressive kid.

About a decade ago, MZ were making some really nice bikes, like Baghira and 1000s (and their variations).

Also new "Reichstyp" 125, with MZ's original LC DOHC engine, from whom I expect to continue the MZ's tradition MZ's after the collapse of the DDR.

Can't we get one of the chinese manufacturers to do one with a 450 4stroke eec approved a sale price of 1500 to 2000dollars ... i know im dreaming

IMO, in the multitude of nearly identical Chinese commuter bikes, some motorcycle that repeates aesthetics of ETZ model, would be interesting to many riders who remember bikes "auf Zschopau".