MZ lives

**moilami** · 01-20-2013, 03:54 PM

Thanks!

One interesting thing with MZ riders is that they rarely mod their bikes. On the other hand, MZs does not need modding or fiddling. They are designed perfect in the factory and nothing needs to be changed in them. That's why herecy like in the pic below can leave one wondering what the hell is this

**MJH** · 01-20-2013, 04:32 PM

Never registered? Being sold in the dead of winter?

Call your local government office and ask what you need to get plates registered, it should be grandfathered for emissions of the year it was built. The fact it was never registered is very suspicious, but maybe it was only used on private land or only for off-road?

The person has to have proof that they own it, that is commonly referred to as a title. Registrations is the common term referred to for plating, if they have no title then that would be suspicious as that is typically done by the retailer/dealer that sells it. I doubt that MZ was drop shipping in Finland in 1986, factories offer manufacturer statements of origin to dealers that then convert that to a title through a local government agency then they give the title to the owner with their name on it.

When you buy a bike for cash you get a title and that is used to get it registered, if you financed you do not get a title the bank holds it, the bank give you a memorandum title and payment book. The titles are used to ensure it is free of liens against it, titling is typically separated from registration which is only to get plates to ride it on public roads.

If it does not have a title that is free and clear of liens…it is not worth as much as it would be with a title, without a title it cannot be registered and can only be ridden off road.

They may have a different system in Finland….but I doubt it.

**MJH** · 01-20-2013, 04:36 PM

The bikes were very popular...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap_DMULymDA&NR=1

**MJH** · 01-20-2013, 04:45 PM

A person could buy a bike with financing and then not be able to make the payments, then it gets repossessed but not if it gets sent to a friends farm? No title can mean allot of things, simply lost is the most common excuse, but if it was once registered then getting a replacement title is easy, but if not then impossible as with out some linage of proof it could have been stolen and they will not offer a replacement title without some proof of ownership once registered proof exist of a title that would have been needed to get registered in the first place.

**Krasi** · 01-20-2013, 07:48 PM

Ah, MZ... "My" first motorcycle. Well, it was my dad's. ETZ151. The dream bike then was ETZ251. Not this blue ETZ250!

Don't know how old are these "concepts", but Gas Gas no longer manufacture this engine (which, by the way, is based on the Suzuki DRZ engine). They have switched to Yamaha WR engines these days.

About a decade ago, MZ were making some really nice bikes, like Baghira and 1000s (and their variations). I'm still waiting to see if they'll come up with something clever again. So far, they've gone till scooters only...

**skou** · 01-20-2013, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by moilami

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOO! I found brand new MZ ETZ 250 from year 1986 for sale in Finland!

Needless to say I emailed the seller at once

Getting that bike would be like winning in lottery.

the same colour and year as my first bike only lacking the hepco-becker rack and cases and the fact that this one has the nva satless..... dam i miss that bike best handling bike ive ever had execpt in a crosswind. Can't we get one of the chinese manufacturers to do one with a 450 4stroke eec approved a sale price of 1500 to 2000dollars ... i know im dreaming

**Zorge** · 01-21-2013, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by moilami

One interesting thing with MZ riders is that they rarely mod their bikes. On the other hand, MZs does not need modding or fiddling. They are designed perfect in the factory and nothing needs to be changed in them. That's why herecy like in the pic below can leave one wondering what the hell is this

It could be said that the MZ is very rational design. It's hard to considerably improve something, without extensive modifications.

Originally Posted by MJH

The bikes were very popular...

Still ARE, "after all these years".

Originally Posted by Krasi

Ah, MZ... "My" first motorcycle.

I expected you to say that you started with a 50cc Balkan or something similar.

Right away on MZ - it seems that you were very progressive kid.

Originally Posted by Krasi

About a decade ago, MZ were making some really nice bikes, like Baghira and 1000s (and their variations).

Also new "Reichstyp" 125, with MZ's original LC DOHC engine, from whom I expect to continue the MZ's tradition MZ's after the collapse of the DDR.

Originally Posted by skou

Can't we get one of the chinese manufacturers to do one with a 450 4stroke eec approved a sale price of 1500 to 2000dollars ... i know im dreaming

IMO, in the multitude of nearly identical Chinese commuter bikes, some motorcycle that repeates aesthetics of ETZ model, would be interesting to many riders who remember bikes "auf Zschopau".