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[moilami]

Moilami I was editing my post, and it was only up there a second, sorry for any offense caused. I stand by my post as it stands now, but the previous post was unfair.

I said no probs. It is no news to me that people are totally clueless about what was the role of Finland in WW2, and even if they would know a bit of it they would never really understand how difficult the situation was for Finland.

That's why I just lol like the soldier in the end of next clip from Winter War the Movie to all this madness xD

[moilami]

'Bleep' the sounds of thousands of computers hooked up to the internet now unable to read MCM. Or maybe not, but you take that risk with their freedom to show yours, seems kinda selfish. Farang is 'foreigner' in Thai, and nothing to do with China.

How is the fact that people don't want to have a website blocked damaging Tibetian freedom? There is no relevance. Your arguments are illogical.

I practise my freedom to acknowledge Nation of Tibet. Is that selfish? What do I gain if Tibet gains independence? Nothing.

I don't say that you should acknowledge Tibetians. I don't say that because I don't say what people should do. But I refuse to limit my freedom because of requests made by people who are ready to limit their freedom in the name of opportunities they can get. You just trade your freedom to opportunities you get by doing that, it is up to you, but you can't limit my freedom in the name of your opportunities That should be obvious to you

Government of China or its puppets does not say what I can say, thanks God!


Regarding Farangs, Thai people use it of (white) foreigners. I use it in Finland in the same way. Problem?

[TB-Racing]

one of the greatest ride reports ever.... open access to all on a "social media website" called ADVrider...

The Sibirsky Extreme Trail - The Toughest Ride of Them All
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834987

***still bored and posting crap on a motorbike website called MCM? proceed to your garage and polish motorbikes***

[moilami]

There is about 400 km between me and Pony.

I am visiting my wife's grandparents and other relatives of her. Tomorrow we will become godfathers of my wife's brother's new kid.

That was intro to the situation.

I was writing a reply in this forum and her grandfather game upstairs certainly seeing that titty avator of some MCM poster. I wanted to facepalm and say this is not what you may think it is, but then I though the damage is already done xD It was not that bad. As a (female) titty lover and admirer I deserve to get some flak :D The best thing, however, was that he did not see those man boobs xD That would had given totally wrong impressions of me :D

Now I understand why people can be so serious about innocent titty pics in Internet, though.

[euphonius]

You better be careful ... or keep the clicks at 149.999 to stay below the radar .

Man gets 4 months for uploading porn [Shanghai Daily]

A MAN who uploaded 81 pornographic photos in order to upgrade his access level to browse a porn website was sentenced to four months' detention for disseminating pornography, Jing'an District People's Court said yesterday.

Li De, 26, who has a college degree, was spotted by police after the porn photos he uploaded onto the website got more than 150,000 clicks, prosecutors said.

The court said Li used the Internet to spread electronic porn, breaking the law.
The highest penalty for disseminating pornography under Chinese Law is two years in prison, but it can be heavier if the pornography is sold to children under 18 years old.

So what were the cops doing looking at the porn site where young Li was posting his escapades??

[Lain]

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So you agree with Lain? But Lain is wrong, he knows like you do, what you read on Wikipedia. Sorry if it puts your nose out of joint to find peoples actual first-hand experiences do not match up and then have points of view that might seem over zealous. The GFW dosn't use bots, they (in my provincial capital based out of the university) scan your freakin connection when you use the web to fish for words they don't like or think they might not like. Then that text is then tracked back to the IP that it came from. Then that IP may then be blocked. OK, so it isn't that likely, but why push it when we are writing off topic? Why keep on about it when you've already been asked not to? Why presume every internet connection is the same?

Firstly, let me say that this has gotten off topic for the actual thread, however the "forum category" is called OFF TOPIC...so whats your problem? Secondly you assert that my working knowledge of the internet, the GFW and more is merely based on what I read on Wiki? As IF you actually had any clue as to what my knowledge & skill sets are. For the past 12 years I have operated my own servers, have 3 internet based companies and have written in excess of 150,000 lines of custom code for everything from credit card processing to an extremely complex anti-fraud system that to day has blocked 100% of the fraud on my sites for 5 years running! To do that I had to have an exceptionally good understanding of server traffic, bots & user agents, IP connections and even mapping tens of thousands of proxy systems. It required 2 years to develop and implement and integrate into my Mod_Security filter.

Furthermore I LIVE IN CHINA, and have to operate my network from INSIDE the GFW. How do you assert that I am able to do this based on reading a Wiki page? I operate and secure a VOIP (which is normally 100% blocked) here, as well as my credit card processor. By stating that I am "wrong" are you actually asserting you have some sort of technical superiority from your "experiences"? So now your the "know it all" and I am, as you say the "dumb ass"...I hope you do see the problem with that logic.

Let me explain a few things about what you said. They filter your connection, true..its called DPI (deep packet inspection) and its the primary way the GFW works. However it does not BLOCK your connection, it simply drops the connection between your modem and your ISP. The site is not blocked for everyone in China, or even everyone in your building (unless they use the same modem). In fact often the connection can be reestablished simply by unplugging your modem for 2 minutes and powering it back up which clears the modems log file. Which is why when your NOT using a VPN, you should use Google SSL search for things that you think might get blocked. Furthermore you can avoid many such issues by simply changing your computers default DNS to use either Google or Open DNS so your search results show the true results, not the ones Chinese DNS servers are giving you, which will often omit sites they don't like or are simply hosted on a shared server. (blocked by DNS association)

Yes, they DO use bots to scan the websites that draws lots of attention, or have high volumes of traffic from inside China. I have thousands of pages of server access logs with faked user agent strings that trace back to Chinese companies or "Universities". They are poorly disguised, but extremely persistent which is why I have written a complex .htaccess regular expression filter to block about 80% of them from my networks as they simply waste my bandwidth and server cycles. I suspect most of them are looking for ways to exploit the server versus looking for objectionable content, however the fact remains they are one in the same gvt offices.

I do not think Felix is missing ANY points, in fact I think he gets it more than most. Your assertion is that self censorship is vital to the continued access of this site from various members inside China. A position I respect, even if the manner in which the censorship is applied is neither consistent or logical. A fact pointed out many times, but ignored because we would not want to be hypocrites now would we? Also this site does not even rank in the top 1 Million (Alexa) and its content could never be interpreted as an outlet for political descent or anti-communist propaganda which is what gets a site blocked.

Lastly, they word T1bet IS the actual translated word for a place, like Hong Kong or Macau (which I just got back from) its taught in the schools here because its a word for a place, not a political buzzword to describe an anti-Chinese position. Even my wife's 9 year old niece had to learn it at school, sadly she did not know it on the test shown below. So really, get real. You & others post whole news stories from other sites about politics in TIC, with links to blocked sites and slam newb's for a few words, which the site operator does not appear to care about or would use the word filter.
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[TB-Racing]

does the MCM forum has a IGNORE BUTTON feature to block posts, entire threads or even members?
this issue get's dragged on and on and on.... isn't MCM a forum about motorbikes?!

[ZMC888]

Firstly, let me say that this has gotten off topic for the actual thread, however the "forum category" is called OFF TOPIC...so whats your problem? Secondly you assert that my working knowledge of the internet, the GFW and more is merely based on what I read on Wiki? As IF you actually had any clue as to what my knowledge & skill sets are. For the past 12 years I have operated my own servers, have 3 internet based companies and have written in excess of 150,000 lines of custom code for everything from credit card processing to an extremely complex anti-fraud system that to day has blocked 100% of the fraud on my sites for 5 years running! To do that I had to have an exceptionally good understanding of server traffic, bots & user agents, IP connections and even mapping tens of thousands of proxy systems. It required 2 years to develop and implement and integrate into my Mod_Security filter.

Furthermore I LIVE IN CHINA, and have to operate my network from INSIDE the GFW. How do you assert that I am able to do this based on reading a Wiki page? I operate and secure a VOIP (which is normally 100% blocked) here, as well as my credit card processor. By stating that I am "wrong" are you actually asserting you have some sort of technical superiority from your "experiences"? So now your the "know it all" and I am, as you say the "dumb ass"...I hope you do see the problem with that logic.

Let me explain a few things about what you said. They filter your connection, true..its called DPI (deep packet inspection) and its the primary way the GFW works. However it does not BLOCK your connection, it simply drops the connection between your modem and your ISP. The site is not blocked for everyone in China, or even everyone in your building (unless they use the same modem). In fact often the connection can be reestablished simply by unplugging your modem for 2 minutes and powering it back up which clears the modems log file. Which is why when your NOT using a VPN, you should use Google SSL search for things that you think might get blocked. Furthermore you can avoid many such issues by simply changing your computers default DNS to use either Google or Open DNS so your search results show the true results, not the ones Chinese DNS servers are giving you, which will often omit sites they don't like or are simply hosted on a shared server. (blocked by DNS association)

Yes, they DO use bots to scan the websites that draws lots of attention, or have high volumes of traffic from inside China. I have thousands of pages of server access logs with faked user agent strings that trace back to Chinese companies or "Universities". They are poorly disguised, but extremely persistent which is why I have written a complex .htaccess regular expression filter to block about 80% of them from my networks as they simply waste my bandwidth and server cycles. I suspect most of them are looking for ways to exploit the server versus looking for objectionable content, however the fact remains they are one in the same gvt offices.

I do not think Felix is missing ANY points, in fact I think he gets it more than most. Your assertion is that self censorship is vital to the continued access of this site from various members inside China. A position I respect, even if the manner in which the censorship is applied is neither consistent or logical. A fact pointed out many times, but ignored because we would not want to be hypocrites now would we? Also this site does not even rank in the top 1 Million (Alexa) and its content could never be interpreted as an outlet for political descent or anti-communist propaganda which is what gets a site blocked.

Lastly, they word T1bet IS the actual translated word for a place, like Hong Kong or Macau (which I just got back from) its taught in the schools here because its a word for a place, not a political buzzword to describe an anti-Chinese position. Even my wife's 9 year old niece had to learn it at school, sadly she did not know it on the test shown below. So really, get real. You & others post whole news stories from other sites about politics in TIC, with links to blocked sites and slam newb's for a few words, which the site operator does not appear to care about or would use the word filter.

The big problem is you seem top know so little about the actual topic in hand......motorcycles, post very sporadically which makes me worry that you are here not about bikes, but for some other destructive or distractive agenda. Please prove me wrong, post some pic and data at least about your mountain bike and we can see how much practical ability and knowledge you possess, because the questions and opinions you have about motorcycles seem as if they come from someone with no actual interest in them at all, which makes you potentially a troll.

[moilami]

I rate this forum now children and relatives safe :D

[Lain]

The big problem is you seem top know so little about the actual topic in hand......motorcycles, post very sporadically which makes me worry that you are here not about bikes, but for some other destructive or distractive agenda. Please prove me wrong, post some pic and data at least about your mountain bike and we can see how much practical ability and knowledge you possess, because the questions and opinions you have about motorcycles seem as if they come from someone with no actual interest in them at all, which makes you potentially a troll.

Obviously you have failed to even read my posts, otherwise you would see not only pics of my bikes but also a post about where to ride MTB in GZ. You are correct in that I came here to find info and talk about Chinese motorcycles and experiences in China, but YOU have chosen to use this topic as a place to constantly take shots at me, insult me..etc and to insist on your alpha superiority. My lack of knowledge of motorbikes was made in other posts (whihc you seem to have not read) and I was not aware that there were any requirements that I be an expert in this topic before becoming a site member. I was under the impression that I only needed to share an interest, get advice and share my experiences...which I have tried to do. My sporadic posting has more to do with a couple of facts. 1) I have been away for the CNY to visit my Chinese inlaws, and then took a vacation to Macau with my wife. Secondly I actually have a life and a business to run. Not that I feel any need to explain my posting activity to you..or do you now have some unwritten rule that I must check in and post every 48 hours??

Once more, as for topic...I would think by now that in this section which I will remind you is called .."OFF TOPIC" this thread is very much in keeping with its intended creation. Otherwise it could not be called...off topic. I have kept my comments about this subject to this thread, and if your paranoid self censorship issue was not enough, its even more laughable that you would accuse me now of having a "destructive or distractive agenda" really man, get a grip on reality.