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  1. #21 Re: Chinese Motorcycle Top 50 Exporters 
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    It is one thing to use models with bikes, then another to let your enamored state prevent the actual bike from being seen at all? That takes it all to a new level of idiocaracy, they all got boners and posted photos of models less the bikes. Idiots marketing to idiots...they likely will sell millions.
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    So you say some of bikes are stolen designs, what would you like to do about this?
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    oh yeah raise your back up some more, yeah that's right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZMC888 View Post
    About the horrid copies. I think Honda should play carrot and stick with these companies. Sue the ass out of them when they export unlicensed copies, but offer them dated designs to cheaply license.
    They likely do, they likely send out letters and also lobby governments, this one design to me seems so prevalent it may have been licensed to the central government? I really doubt it was licensed, but not that the government was not involved in the dissemination of the design.
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    These are interesting they are parts sourced from Loncin, their 250cc bike they call a Jeda, that bike has a GN250 Suzuki engine design, while these have a 125cc twin with 10.8 hp.

    CB125R


    The color options make them more interesting. They also make a CB170R which is a 168cc with 13hp.

    These bikes are primarily targeted at the Asian youth, who have opinions of them that are not significantly different then that of young riders globally.
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    Rebel is or will be offering the CBR300 Honda copy with a 175 twin, the bike is likely a CKD and it is likely coming in parts out of many part supply factories in China or at least a few that sell them as a CKD unit, They sell also to assembly plants inside of china and that explains why so many are selling them.


    If you consider that all the banks are government banks they really all work collectively, all the capital goes into government held accounts. Some look at these accounts and see cash flow problems, they may then instigate a technology supplement to them in this case a design they can all make?


    What is creepy is how they get the designs and that is likely through a clandestine group/government operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by culcune View Post
    Ok, now you have me getting confused with choices...
    Lapsus calami. It's NC, not NX.

    I've noticed prices announced for CB 500 and compared with the prices at which thay sale NC 700. The difference is very small.
    Ask me nothing - I DO NOT speak english. Really...
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    NC700X

    $7,499.00


    CB500X

    No price yet in USA.

    In the UK the CBR500R is priced the same as the CB500X at 4,950.00 GBP, if that is held true here in the USA that being the same pricing formulas then the CB500X will sell here for $5,999.00 as that is what the CBR500R sell for here.

    $1,500.00 difference.
    In the UK the difference is 950.00 GBP, which is about $1,500.00 USD,
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    2013 first quarter
    No. Enterprise business name says This month cumulative (cars) Same period last year (units) Growth ( % ) Total export value
    (Million U.S. dollars)
    Total motorcycle exports 2928534 2756946 6.22 1,881,768,500
    1 Chongqing Loncin Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 306783 214304 43.15 164,904,700
    2 Cheung Yin-Chongqing Motorcycle (Group) Co., Ltd. 210424 189354 11.13 105,046,800
    3 Lifan Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. 176917 206161 -14.19 126,578,300
    4 Motorcycle Co., Ltd., Guangzhou Grand Canal 143740 158005 -9.03 96,025,000
    5 New Honda Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 132996 140340 -5.23 146,850,700
    6 Motorcycle Co., Ltd. in Guangzhou Jin-ho 131180 109624 19.66 71,190,000
    7 Zongshen Industrial Group Co., Ltd. 110268 106705 3.34 69,734,000
    8 Chongqing Xinyuan Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 107033 57050 87.61 55,642,000
    9 Jiangmen City, Grand River Group Limited 105604 131929 -19.95 90,868,400
    10 Chongqing Astronautic Bashan Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 103716 89725 15.59 58,229,100
    11 Guangzhou Tianma Group Tianma Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 93600 76518 22.32 37,858,700
    12 Chongqing Jianshe Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 86425 78732 9.77 63,520,000
    13 Luoyang Northern Enterprises Group Co., Ltd. 79995 73403 8.98 33,880,085
    14 Qianjiang Group Co., Ltd. 76397 83069 -8.03 54,893,800
    15 Guangzhou Sanya Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 63212 66417 -4.83 32,114,800
    16 Guangdong Tayo Motorcycle Technology Co., Ltd. 60991 52276 16.67 34,521,000
    17 Wuyang - Honda Motors (Guangzhou) Co., Ltd. 57501 61063 -5.83 67,151,000
    18 Heshan Guoji Winsor Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 57258 60466 -5.31 23,732,600
    19 Guangdong Yinhe Motorcycle Group Co., Ltd. 53024 38470 37.83 28,804,800
    20 Zhejiang Taizhou Wang Ye Limited 47479 45714 3.86 23,530,900
    21 Double celebration Electrical Co., Ltd. in Chongqing 47344 30773 53.85 19,695,600
    22 Changzhou Kwang Yang Motor Co., Ltd. 46957 36436 28.88 37,804,700
    23 * Luoyang Northern Ek Chor Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 42986 45406 -5.33 18,366,000
    24 China Jialing Industrial Co., Ltd. (Group) 37833 58988 -35.86 17,640,000
    25 Xiamen Xiashing Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 35582 43761 -18.69 25,726,200
    26 Guangzhou Panyu Hao Jian Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 34489 36171 -4.65 21,768,100
    27 Power Co., Ltd. Chongqing Runtong 33919 13671 148.11 19,480,000
    28 Jincheng Group Co., Ltd. 31957 38914 -17.88 14,442,100
    29 Zengcheng Horse Industrial Co., Ltd. 30870 39102 -21.05 13,353,200
    30 Chongqing Silver Steel Technology (Group) Co., Ltd. 30604 22428 36.45 13,908,100
    31 Chongqing Guangyu Motorcycle Manufacture Co., Ltd. 30268 24131 25.43 20,590,700
    32 Motorcycle Co., Ltd., Jiangsu angels 28829 18660 54.50 13,763,200
    33 Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. Chongqing rose HI-BIRD 25960 18456 40.66 14,095,400
    34 Changchun Changling Group Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 23122 30528 -24.26 12,112,100
    35 New Everest in Tibet Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 22684 15391 47.38 11,259,000
    36 Zhejiang Hongzhou Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 21755 12326 76.50 9,825,500
    37 Jinjiang City, Fujian Sanli Locomotive Co., Ltd. 21018 25751 -18.38 18,941,700
    38 Chongqing proficient force Dayang Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 19017 29230 -34.94 6,356,000
    39 Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. Chongqing Wangjiang 17153 21205 -19.11 6,631,900
    40 Jinan Qingqi Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 15279 29517 -48.24 13,450,000
    41 Taizhou Kai-Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 14175 19094 -25.76 7.050.100
    42 Honshu Vehicle Industry Group Co., Ltd. 11287 15687 -28.05 5,096,000
    43 Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Chongqing new sensation 11003 7866 39.88 8,980,000
    44 Guangdong Dafu Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 10541 5023 109.85 6,212,600
    45 Taizhou City of Granville Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 10269 13022 -21.14 4.494.100
    46 Guangzhou Motors Group Company 9236 7072 30.60 3.981.400
    47 Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. Zhejiang Jia Jue 8675 6171 40.58 4,819,300
    48 Zhejiang Riya Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 8433 6263 34.65 4,229,800
    49 Zhuhai Zhujiang Vehicle Co., Ltd. 8027 12988 -38.20 3,840,200
    50 Guangzhou Tianheng Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 6954 5571 24.82 6,696,100
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    Value of exports for Q3 2013 to 2012 with total value of sales in dollars and average value of each unit, ranked highest to lowest.
    Rank company Q3 2013 Q3 2012 change% total value in USD per unit average value
    17 Wuyang - Honda Motors (Guangzhou) Co., Ltd. 57501 61063 -5.83 67,151,000.00 $1,167.82
    5 New Honda Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 132996 140340 -5.23 146,850,700.00 $1,104.17
    50 Guangzhou Tianheng Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 6954 5571 24.82 6,696,100.00 $962.91
    37 Jinjiang City, Fujian Sanli Locomotive Co., Ltd. 21018 25751 -18.38 18,941,700.00 $901.21
    40 Jinan Qingqi Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 15279 29517 -48.24 13,450,000.00 $880.29
    9 Jiangmen City, Grand River Group Limited 105604 131929 -19.95 90,868,400.00 $860.46
    43 Motorcycle Co., Ltd. Chongqing new sensation 11003 7866 39.88 8,980,000.00 $816.14
    22 Changzhou Kwang Yang Motor Co., Ltd. 46957 36436 28.88 37,804,700.00 $805.09
    12 Chongqing Jianshe Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 86425 78732 9.77 63,520,000.00 $734.97
    25 Xiamen Xiashing Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 35582 43761 -18.69 25,726,200.00 $723.01
    14 Qianjiang Group Co., Ltd. 76397 83069 -8.03 54,893,800.00 $718.53
    3 Lifan Industry (Group) Co., Ltd. 176917 206161 -14.19 126,578,300.00 $715.47
    31 Chongqing Guangyu Motorcycle Manufacture Co., Ltd. 30268 24131 25.43 20,590,700.00 $680.28
    4 Motorcycle Co., Ltd., Guangzhou Grand Canal 143740 158005 -9.03 96,025,000.00 $668.05
    7 Zongshen Industrial Group Co., Ltd. 110268 106705 3.34 69,734,000.00 $632.40
    26 Guangzhou Panyu Hao Jian Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 34489 36171 -4.65 21,768,100.00 $631.16
    44 Guangdong Dafu Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 10541 5023 109.85 6,212,600.00 $589.37
    27 Power Co., Ltd. Chongqing Runtong 33919 13671 148.11 19,480,000.00 $574.31
    16 Guangdong Tayo Motorcycle Technology Co., Ltd. 60991 52276 16.67 34,521,000.00 $566.00
    10 Chongqing Astronautic Bashan Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 103716 89725 15.59 58,229,100.00 $561.43
    47 Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. Zhejiang Jia Jue 8675 6171 40.58 4,819,300.00 $555.54
    19 Guangdong Yinhe Motorcycle Group Co., Ltd. 53024 38470 37.83 28,804,800.00 $543.24
    33 Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. Chongqing rose 25960 18456 40.66 14,095,400.00 $542.97
    6 Motorcycle Co., Ltd. in Guangzhou Jin-ho 131180 109624 19.66 71,190,000.00 $542.69
    1 Chongqing Loncin Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 306783 214304 43.15 164,904,700.00 $537.53
    34 Changchun Changling Group Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 23122 30528 -24.26 12,112,100.00 $523.83
    8 Chongqing Xinyuan Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 107033 57050 87.61 55,642,000.00 $519.86
    15 Guangzhou Sanya Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 63212 66417 -4.83 32,114,800.00 $508.05
    48 Zhejiang Riya Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 8433 6263 34.65 4,229,800.00 $501.58
    2 Cheung Yin-Chongqing Motorcycle (Group) Co., Ltd. 210424 189354 11.13 105,046,800.00 $499.21
    41 Taizhou Kai-Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 14175 19094 -25.76 7,050,100.00 $497.36
    35 New Everest in Tibet Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 22684 15391 47.38 11,259,000.00 $496.34
    20 Zhejiang Taizhou Wang Ye Limited 47479 45714 3.86 23,530,900.00 $495.61
    49 Zhuhai Zhujiang Vehicle Co., Ltd. 8027 12988 -38.2 3,840,200.00 $478.41
    32 Motorcycle Co., Ltd., Jiangsu angels 28829 18660 54.5 13,763,200.00 $477.41
    24 China Jialing Industrial Co., Ltd. (Group) 37833 58988 -35.86 17,640,000.00 $466.26
    30 Chongqing Silver Steel Technology (Group) Co., Ltd. 30604 22428 36.45 13,908,100.00 $454.45
    28 Jincheng Group Co., Ltd. 31957 38914 -17.88 14,442,100.00 $451.92
    36 Zhejiang Hongzhou Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 21755 12326 76.5 9,825,500.00 $451.64
    42 Honshu Vehicle Industry Group Co., Ltd. 11287 15687 -28.05 5,096,000.00 $451.49
    45 Taizhou City of Granville Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 10269 13022 -21.14 4,494,100.00 $437.64
    29 Zengcheng Horse Industrial Co., Ltd. 30870 39102 -21.05 13,353,200.00 $432.56
    46 Guangzhou Motors Group Company 9236 7072 30.6 3,981,400.00 $431.07
    23 * Luoyang Northern Ek Chor Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 42986 45406 -5.33 18,366,000.00 $427.26
    13 Luoyang Northern Enterprises Group Co., Ltd. 79995 73403 8.98 33,880,085.00 $423.53
    21 Double celebration Electrical Co., Ltd. in Chongqing 47344 30773 53.85 19,695,600.00 $416.01
    18 Heshan Guoji Winsor Motorcycle Industry Co., Ltd. 57258 60466 -5.31 23,732,600.00 $414.49
    11 Guangzhou Tianma Group Tianma Motorcycle Co., Ltd. 93600 76518 22.32 37,858,700.00 $404.47
    39 Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. Chongqing Wangjiang 17153 21205 -19.11 6,631,900.00 $386.63
    38 Chongqing proficient force Dayang Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd. 19017 29230 -34.94 6,356,000.00 $334.23
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