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  1. #211 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerdoc View Post
    Woa, that is a serious safety issue... I'd be swaping the whole wheel to a mag wheel to be done with it.
    BD - Agree completely. Have not yet seen this on my bike, but I can bet it will be an issue very soon given how I ride and the fact that I weigh more than a Pixie! Next step is to verify the size and get to work finding a wheel to replace it with.

    Am actually surprised at myself here...I have ALWAYS had problems with spokes here in China and for my CJ's I just completely replace the wheels with Mags by default now - and I have built 7 so far. Solid mag wheel is the only way to go, but I have no idea if they even MAKE one that would fit the front wheel, or if it would be necessary. Since most of the weight / impact pressure on these bikes in in the rear, my guess is that it would NOT be as much of an issue.

    Shuben - If you can help me confirm the rear wheel specs, I can hit some shops here in the US while I'm traveling here and maybe find a replacement option. Will also be checking with some mech's about the sticky clutch issue to see what they would recommend. If interested, I might be able to order up and send over 2x once confirmed.
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  2. #212 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpentza View Post
    An analogy if I may...

    Each day stuck in traffic in my car here in Shenzhen... I look at how the people in front of me are all trying desperately to squeeze into the same space, not allowing anyone in, blatantly blocking and taking any gap they can... I think to myself, if these buggers just learned how to merge and actually let the person in front of them into their lane, then we'd all be home already... then I try let someone in infront of me... and then the whole of Shenzhen's traffic squeezes into that gap I made for that one guy... and then I realise that rational thinking simply does not apply here. If I don't buy their product "in order to make them care about Quality Control"... then they'll sell it to someone else and I'll have to sit and swivel till the end of time :P

    So the idea of buying a bike that has a great engine, frame, reasonable looks and potential for constantly being improved and enjoyed.. then I'll jump at the chance... Basically all of my bikes and cars my entire life have been rubbish, old, second hand, abused etc... but I've loved them all and also learnt to overcome just about every problem that can be thrown at me (mechanically... don't talk to me about women, that I'll never master).

    When you're in China, a Chinese bike makes sense! However I understand people who don't want trouble since they either don't have patience or the skill to deal with niggles and problems, whatever floats your boats ;)
    Anyway I'm in the process of selling most of my bikes to afford the X5 (I have the cash.. but I try to keep my "Bike" money separate from my other finances... also the wife can't touch that ;) )
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    Hear hear!!! Nice one Serpentza!


    Totally agree. By the way, I also try to balance my TOY budget - If I wan a new bike / whatever, I have to sell something else. Tried to get my wife to think like this with her jewelry....that's when the argument started.
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  3. #213 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden boy View Post
    Hi all,

    I have been following this thread with great interest for a while now. Very good review ShuBen and Chinasam... it made me really curious about the bike. Hopefully i gonna hold my chinese license in my hands in october and then I am ready to hit the road. I was at the Knightrider shop in Shanghai this weekend to have a look at the X5 - sadly there was no bike for a testride available. First buy - then try!

    Whats do your opinion (especially ShuBen and Chinasam): Would you recommend buying the bike and do you think it could do a three months trip with a few modifications?
    Is the clutchproblem solved now? Was that really just an issue of the oil? or is that a manufacturing problem.
    Keep up the good work and enjoy your toys
    Gboy -
    Really surprised the guys at KR shop didn't let you do a test ride. They only had new ones when I went there first time, and within 20 minutes I was able to talk them into letting take a quick spin around the block just to get a feel for the bike a bit before I made a decision.

    Maybe you just look SHIFTY!?!?
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    I contacted a seller today selling X5s in Foshan down here in Guangdong, I asked him if he could help me with the registration process, but he seemed unsure as he's never dealt with a foreigner before, I'm planning to go out there with the pope to go and have a chat with him... perhaps a wad of cash will grease the wheels here... :D
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  5. #215 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    The rear wheel spec has to wait a few days as I am tomorrow on vacation and return on 5th Oct. (sunshine, sea, palm trees, long drinks, beach beauties :-) )

    For the clutch issue I am considering to buy a set of friction disks from XR400 after checking the X5 clutch dimensions. Anyway the information I have says it is identical. (but better check than believe)

    For kick stand or engine guard I had no problems yet. Except the stand spring end was a little to wide open and scratched my boots on the heel inside.

    For the spoke issue I am disappointed about the Shineray quality guy. We sent him the same pics as published here and described the situation in Chinese ..... not any response ....

    Someone was pointing on the CFR250 Honda .... GREAT bike .... I had tried this last winter in Thailand. After 4 hours offroad I brought it back exhausted and gained the next 4 days heavy muscle ache from my fun action.
    I found that bike in TaoBao for 38500 RMB, but no clue if legal .... would love to own one .... seems to be VERY stable

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  6. #216 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    I've installed that GPS tracker from taobao... for those interested: http://www.mychinamoto.com/forums/sh...led-and-tested
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  7. #217 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuBen View Post
    some bike porn from the way up to WeiChang (400km northeast of BJ)
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    TB-Racing, the German Rudi and myself had a overnight trip to WeiChang.
    Nice road to get there through country side. Another way around planned back, but we end up with full 400km distance rain from 1st to last second.

    The X5 did well. Only the chain seems to be made from cheap weak materials and gets longer and longer. In 2300km i readjusted the length 3 times already and after this tour its necessary again.
    Any statements from the community? (Maybe I buy another one from Germany.)
    How did those bags work for you? I think I bought mine around the same time and the zippers all went to crap after about the third haul. Were crap from the beginning. My new M.O. is to stop buying cheap crap...
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  8. #218 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    I just used them twice. Anyway they are not really water proof even with the included covers and yes, one of the Zips did open but I managed to fix it. I took a pliers and made the gap of the moving metal part a bit tighter. But for a big trip I would invest in Alu boxes.
    Again: cheap price = cheap stuff (I didn't buy them with high quality expectations)
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  9. #219 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    A quick update from my side.

    After a few months of doing the motorcycle license back in my home country and finally doing the chinese license test - am ready to go.
    For the chinese license i can also highly recommend the "Driving in China" Iphone app. The translation was a bit different than in the actual test but it was a great tool for preparation.
    I really wanted to avoid to fail and wait another six! weeks for the next appointment. - So I practiced quite a bit
    After looking at the X5 at the Knight rider shop and Cf Moto i decided to buy it at Knight rider.
    Both shops let you do a testride if you call them in advance.
    Jeff at CF moto is a really nice guy and there was a whole bunch of chinese riders hanging out at the shop.
    They had an already sold X5 ready for a ride... with aluminum boxes and all.
    After several attempts to start up the bike which included getting water out of the engine I could go for a ride.
    After 500m the bike broke down on a heavy traffic intersection and I couldnt start it up agian... so i pushed it back to the shop.
    I waited an hour or so for them to fix the problem before I gave up.
    Jeff told me that there gets water into the tank if the bike stands outside in heavy rain for a longer time - two days before Shanghai was hit by a Taifun - so that might be true...but still hard to believe.

    My friend already bought his X2 at the Knight rider shop and always had good experiences with the owners and the mechanics. so I decided to go with them
    After a downpayment they said they need two weeks to get plates and all the documents. When I picked the bike up it had already 100km on the clock - so I think they also used it for testriding for potential buyers over the last two weeks.
    I am riding now for a week and its a lot of fun!
    As its my first motorcycle ever I dont have much to compare to - except my electric scooter - I really like the high seating position and the overall dimensions. its quite slim around the tank and with my 175 cm height it fits me perfectly.
    Everything seems fine so far
    I rode around 60 km around Pudong and after i came back the license plate was just loosely hanging on one screw. Easy to solve
    Also when I go over a bit deeper manholes I hear a noise as somethings loose around the Instruments area.
    I doublechecked and i couldnt find anything.
    The guys at knight rider told me its the noise of the of the front suspension when I went there yesterday for the first Oil change... I dont think the suspension would make that kind of noise - so I keep my ears and eyes open.
    Generally riding around the city is quite exhausting - traffic is crazy as usual and riding on the normal road I feel more vulnerable than with the scooter on the side - also I didnt realize how many one-way roads are there - as I did mostly ignore them on the scooter. I will get used to that
    Next weekend I will do a longer trip to Suzhou and see how the bike does on the three hour ride there.
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  10. #220 Re: Shineray / XinYuan X5 review 
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    The noise, rattling sounds, vibrations ...... continuously I hear all of these ... since 9000km. The front sound "CLONK" when hitting a pothole I know too and never found something wrong.
    Until now the bike runs good..... If you check out what the X5 riders experiences say here and if you stay on top of maintenance it should be ok.
    I advise to inspect the bike shortly before and after each ride as you may found things lose or worn out. The bike washing i also do myself because it gives you the chance to look in all that corners you don't check normally. Whenever I found lose screws or during re assembly I use removeable screw glue (kind of locktite) to make sure they are reliable fixed.
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