Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China

[Shanghaifingers]

Well my experience with a crossing the Pakistan/China border is: Go out of China NP, return on the bike NO way... its a export thing. Pay and Pray

Inner Mongolia/ Outer mongolia same deal as pakistan. Pay and pray

China/Laos is a different story, coming and going is rather common and while a guide helps, not completely necessary.

Oh and Rehan please let Euphonis and I know when your in Shanghai, like to meet you and hear about the ride....

[RehanK.Janjua]

Hello Euphonis, shanghaifingers and all.

Thank You for your hospitality and kindness. Im very greatful indeed.

Ill be flying to Shanghai from Kashgar, to look at some bikes there and Zhejiang.
Sort of a business trip to export a container ful lof 250cc Mikilon, Brouser, Kaxa, OMOW, and Wanda.

All these manufecturers are good, want to physically check the product and then choose.

We intend to become dealers for Pakistan. BODE and Mikilon are based in Shanghai.

Your input will be highly appericiated.

Best Wishes.
Rehan

[RehanK.Janjua]

Hi Jorden325ic

Hope you get all the paperwork done and can proceed on your adventure.
Yes it is very bureaucratic.

The new highways being built from China and Pakistan leading to the Arabian Sea port of Gawader again built by China.

I m a test pilot for Air Command International. Cado Mills, Taxes. Based in Pakistan.
Check me out on Google search "Rehan K.Janjua". Asymetric warefare against terror.

Good Luck to you.
Rehan

[euphonius]

I m a test pilot for Air Command International. Cado Mills, Taxes. Based in Pakistan.
Check me out on Google search "Rehan K.Janjua". Asymetric warefare against terror.

A rotary wing test pilot??? You and Shanghaifingers will have a lot to talk about!

Keep us posted about your dates, and we'll organize a (No-)Bike Night during your stay in Shanghai!

cheers
Euphonius

[jordan325ic]

I'm getting conflicting information now!

I am a US citizen legally purchasing a Chinese motorcycle while in China on a work visa.

With that Chinese registered motorcycle in my name, can I cross out of and back into China without the official goverment tour guide?

[euphonius]

I'm getting conflicting information now!

I am a US citizen legally purchasing a Chinese motorcycle while in China on a work visa.

With that Chinese registered motorcycle in my name, can I cross out of and back into China without the official goverment tour guide?

This has nothing to do with your citizenship. If you purchased the bike inside China, and it's legally registered and insured, and if you have a legal Chinese visa or residence permit and legal motorcycle license, you should have little or no problem riding out of China and then riding back in. But be advised: Some border crossings are more sensitive than others, and certainly the Karakoram Highway crossing at Khunjerab would qualify in that regard being that it's in Xinjiang. In other words, if you are a legal motorcyclist with a legal motorcycle inside of China, you can exit and re-enter, sometimes with no hassle at all, sometimes with some hassle, depending on who is manning the crossing and the current pol*tical temperature in the region. Your mileage may vary; your experience will be very location-specific.

If a Pakistani national can easily make the Khunjerab crossing because of the historically close Sino-Pakistani relationship, this has pretty much nothing to do with you.

What's conflicting about the information you are getting?

cheers!
Euphonius

[jordan325ic]

Thank you Euphonius.

The conflicting info I was referring to was shanghaifingers' post.

[euphonius]

Thank you Euphonius.

The conflicting info I was referring to was shanghaifingers' post.

In China, the thing and its opposite can both be right, or both be wrong, or neither. Please don't look for hard/fast rules. TIC!

[TB-Racing]

The conflicting info I was referring to was shanghaifingers' post.

Rest assured once your in country (Lovely Liveable China) you will get a lot more of conflicting info from all sources.
Don't be surprised re-entry into ML China with a China registered bike is refused as import of second hand vehicles is banned and you left China via a border and exported the motorbike....

I got a full on RTW plan as well and working on a few solutions and angles but nothing firm just yet but still got a few years time down the track to sort them issues out. Another option would be starting my RTW trip outside China as I have been all over the place already but leaving PRC for good on a motorbike would be a real classic......

[Shanghaifingers]

Most border crossings require you to export your bike... Only a few crossings allow your bike to cross over with temporary permission. Its this exportation which is the problem, once exported it is very hard to import the same bike back into China. Thats why most rides out of China are oneway.