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  1. #1 Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    I've got a rough plan for a several-year motorcycle trip. I plan on concentrating on Asia/Europe/Africa. China (and Burma) pose a large problem due to the impossibility (or excessive cost) of bringing in foreign registered motorcycles, cutting off SE Asia entirely. After much thought I decided that I must start with a Chinese registered motorcycle if I had any hope of doing this trip on just one bike. I have no time limit, and an adequate budget.

    So here is a rough plan... will it work?

    1. Get a Z visa teaching English in China.
    2. Use the months working to deal with getting a Chinese motorcycle license and findi a motorcycle.
    3. At the end of my Z visa, get a multi-entry L permit (hopefully 180 days).
    4. Cross the southern Chinese border with my Chinese motorcycle, crossing several international borders in South-East Asia.
    5. Cross back into China, head west, and leave China towards Europe on my China bike.

    In theory all this seems possible. The question is:

    As a foreigner, can I acquire all the necessary motorcycle papers in my name (proof of ownership, registration)?
    Will having a Chinese bike allow me to cross back into China without the government tour-guide required for foreigners on foreign bikes?
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  2. #2 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    Looks like a well thought out plan. We're not used to these kind of posts here, you must have done some searches or something before creating this thread .

    I would look at the ChongQing area as a place to start. You should have good luck with the licensing, bike purchasing and registration there.

    If you have a valid visa and motorcycle, you can go pretty much anywhere you want in China without a guide. Just forget about Tibet and some sensitive areas in Xinjiang.

    Cheers!
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  3. #3 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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  5. #5 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    Dear Rehan,

    Holy snowline, batman!!!! You are a man of few words, friend, but, damn -- what a couple of awesome first posts! Whatever the hell you are doing up there in the clouds, it definitely deserves its own thread, and maybe 1,000 more pictures. Amazing!

    Picking up the few clues, your profile says you are in Pakistan, and your first pix says "beyond China" -- does this mean you rode into Pakistan from China? Or you are heading into China from Pakistan? What's the story with the bike? Is that a Qingqi?

    I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking: "More! More! More!"

    Thanks in advance, and cheers!
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    Thank you for your interest.
    We Pakistani are at liberty to cross over to china, with out visa.
    Trips are thru the silk route and certainly a wonder of the world.

    The trechrous route to Kashgar or Urumqi is an experience of a life time.
    We need powerful bikes of 1/4 liter 25 - 30hp.

    I have a Honda XL250R Degree (de-militaryized) and its as good as my other KAXA, BODE, MIKILON, BROUSER
    and OMOW CRF250R.
    Chinese are our brothers and we are depend on them since 60 some years now.

    Ill be reaching Shanghai some time next week to pick up some bikes from Zhejiang.

    Best Regards
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  7. #7 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    Quote Originally Posted by RehanK.Janjua View Post
    Chinese are our brothers and we are depend on them since 60 some years now.
    Rehan
    Brothers?

    Not sure the Chinese think that.
    60 years is a long time to depend on some one.

    Gra.
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  8. #8 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    Quote Originally Posted by RehanK.Janjua View Post
    Thank you for your interest.
    We Pakistani are at liberty to cross over to china, with out visa.
    Trips are thru the silk route and certainly a wonder of the world.

    The trechrous route to Kashgar or Urumqi is an experience of a life time.
    We need powerful bikes of 1/4 liter 25 - 30hp.

    I have a Honda XL250R Degree (de-militaryized) and its as good as my other KAXA, BODE, MIKILON, BROUSER
    and OMOW CRF250R.
    Chinese are our brothers and we are depend on them since 60 some years now.

    Ill be reaching Shanghai some time next week to pick up some bikes from Zhejiang.

    Best Regards
    Rehan
    Dear Rehan,

    Keep us posted about your progress toward Shanghai. Are you saying you are riding into Shanghai from Xinjiang??? That's a long slog!

    I'm sure we can round up a group to meet you in Shanghai and share a meal together. Welcome!

    Cheers
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  9. #9 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    Quote Originally Posted by RehanK.Janjua View Post
    Thank you for your interest.
    We Pakistani are at liberty to cross over to china, with out visa.
    Trips are thru the silk route and certainly a wonder of the world.
    Sadly I am a US citizen, so I think things are more complicated.

    Anybody know if a US citizen with a Chinese-plated/registered motorcycle can cross back into China without the government guide nonsense?
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  10. #10 Re: Will this work? Questions about starting a trip in China 
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    Dear Jordan,

    There is a lot of mixed information out there about your question. Some Chinese riders have reported departing China in their Chinese-plated bikes, then re-entering, all without paperwork. Others say you need proper paperwork or you'll face trouble upon re-entry. Riders with foreign passports face tougher scrutiny, but if you are legally licensed and plated, and do whatever paperwork you need to do upon departure, you'll have no serious problem re-entering, as long as your passport and visa are valid and your license remains valid.

    How is it that you'd be entering China on a Chinese-plated bike if you didn't ride out on it in the first place? Purchased in a neighboring country? Even if you had a visa, if you were entering China for the first time on a Chinese-plated bike, you'll be lacking a Chinese driver's license. I imagine that would be problematic.

    Again, what are you proposing to do?

    cheers!
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