Anyone heard of these yet? just today stumbled upon them: http://avavelocityworks.com/what-is-ava/ Look out Skyteam Ace 125. The AVA is a 250 that will apparently sell for just under $4000. Skyteam has just informed me that their Ace won't be legal in the USA for another 8 months. They also told me they are dropping the CT-70 clone, and the TRex, though still in the lineup, won't be available for a while, and they have no idea when that may be.