Sticky rope repairer's how safe ???

[ZMC888]

What a great day today thank you for posting i am never said sticky plugs are no good and should never be used just said you should allways check the internal of the tyre which sticky rope dont allow you to do sorry only 98% brainwashed

But you said.....

........Allowing the rider to limp the bike back home or to a motorcycle shop where a proper inside-out repair can be done or by having a new tyre installed..........

Which is also what the tire industry says.

But we say 'actually allowing the rider to safely ride on the tire for thousands more kilometers without much fear of trouble, although in an ideal world we'd like to change the tire, alas it's not always cost effective'.

Were you a tire fitter at Halfords?

[prince666]

But you said.....

Which is also what the tire industry says.

But we say 'actually allowing the rider to safely ride on the tire for thousands more kilometers without much fear of trouble, although in an ideal world we'd like to change the tire, alas it's not always cost effective'.

Were you a tire fitter at Halfords?

No was not a tyre fitter at Halfords thank you very much and you are sounding like you are haveing a dig at me now are you ??...

yes a sticky rope repair will get you home ok if after you check to make sure it does not loss air but what i am saying you need at some point to check the
intanals of a tyre to make sure no over heating has has occurred most people get a puncture when rideing depending on what speed this happen and at what tyre pressure you notice this
problem will determined how much over heating has occurred in the tyre . This is clearly shown in the picture below where the rider has had 2 puncture in the same tyre
Did you watch the british grand prix last weekend because 4 driver had puncture and how quick these tyre exploded after they got a puncture . But these cars was traveling at very high speeds and the F1 typrs are made with very thin walls and will not happen to a normal bike tyre but does shown how tyres degrade a bike at 70 mph take 100 m to stop in that time heat DOES build up inside the tyre or would you say it DONT so one must at some time inspect the internals of a tyre to insure no build up of heat has occured this is just as important as doing the repair in the first place

[ZMC888]

Prince, that Halfords jibe was a dig.

BUT

You honestly sound like you've Googled a bit, watched a bit of F1 and now you've started a thread which was to 'educate' others, mostly TB-Racing. In fact it is good to bring up this subject, it's actually useful for the forum. You say you've worked in the tire industry but honestly it might be your prose style possibly that you're dyslexic (no offence meant by that some very successful people are too) but it comes across as you are just making up bs. Maybe you do know what you're talking about but heat under inflation damage? Please..it's just a shadow!

And also what are you supposed to do in the middle of rural China? Order a new Pirelli tire and wait for it to be delivered or just ride on a plug?

[prince666]

Prince, that Halfords jibe was a dig.

BUT

You honestly sound like you've Googled a bit, watched a bit of F1 and now you've started a thread which was to 'educate' others, mostly TB-Racing. In fact it is good to bring up this subject, it's actually useful for the forum. You say you've worked in the tire industry but honestly it might be your prose style possibly that you're dyslexic (no offence meant by that some very successful people are too) but it comes across as you are just making up bs. Maybe you do know what you're talking about but heat under inflation damage? Please..it's just a shadow!

And also what are you supposed to do in the middle of rural China? Order a new Pirelli tire and wait for it to be delivered or just ride on a plug?

no dont wait for days to get a new tyre yes plug it ??? use sticky rope but think about what has happen or could of happen inside the tyre that you cant see from the ouside ?? .
i am glad you mention about the picture and say its just a shadow ???

when you take a picture a shadow is " uniformed" but in the picture the shadow is not uniformed so it is clearly a heat build up on the side wall of the tyre so it must be for other people to make up there own minds if i am talking BS as you put it

I am not here to 'educate' people but to advise people of what i think and the only education one EX-MEMBER on here needs is in good manners

[prince666]

Under inflation also causes belt separation. An under inflated tyre can get so hot that the rubber begins to melt. When that happens, the tyre tread can separate from the steel belts in the tyre. A little belt separation will cause the vehicle to drive like it has a square tire on it. If let go, eventually the tread will separate from the tyre completely, likely causing a blowout as seen to F1 cars lately

If you remember the ford Explorer/Firestone fiasco a few years ago, belt separation was the cause of that. Firestone made tyres that were prone to belt separation if under inflated or overloaded.

tyres prone to belt separation + lazy uneducated consumers = fatal accidents


please read link

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=1

[prince666]

ok now lets talk about at what point is a tyre considered underinflated from the correct pressure for your bike.....

An underinflated tyre can't maintain its shape and becomes flatter than intended while in contact with the road. If a vehicle’s tyres are underinflated by only 6 psi it could lead to tyre heat build up and tyre failure. Additionally, the tyre’s tread life could be reduced by as much as 25%. Lower inflation pressure will allow the tyre to deflect (bend) more as it rolls. This will build up internal heat, increase rolling resistance and cause a reduction in fuel economy of up to 5%. You would experience a significant loss of steering precision and cornering stability. While 6 psi doesn’t seem excessively low, remember, it usually represents about 20% of the tyre’s recommended pressure.

so now we must ask from the point you realise you have a puncture and the time it takes you to stop how much damages has been caused to the internals of a tyre you must ask your self and you can`t know unless you take the tyre of the rim and look .....

so i hope this clears a few matter which has been asked on this thread