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  1. #21 Re: 0 tariff=0 import tax 
    Senior C-Moto Guru MJH's Avatar
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    The Chinese factories are not making high unit margins, many operate with very small profit margins it’s the nature of the industry, mass production and flood the markets. Low margins on high numbers, the profit is after all costs are incurred. So everyone is paid and all costs covered, then the small margins are used or go to some top dogs.


    Units are averaging at around 600.00 each, that is the average so higher line models like the GW250 wholesale for what? Considering the low margins in the hyper competitive segment and retail prices on units like the YG250 retailing $ 2800, they are likely costing around what to make? A decent 250 probably cost 2500 each, the YG likely much less as it is primarily off the shelve parts.


    Then you have the 600 CFMOTO and what would its production costs be? Bet that they are close to that of an original Kawasaki in Thailand. Now consider that Kawasaki sold the designs to CFMOTO then on one side costs go up and the others goes down?
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    49,554.25 CNY = 8,098.16 USD


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    Importing from: Thailand
    Importing to: China View country guide

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    The type of product, its value and where it was manufactured


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    Product description: Motorcycle
    Product category: Engine Capacity: 501 - 800 cc (Upgrade account to get HS code)
    Product value: US$4000.00
    Country of manufacture: Thailand

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    The cost of shipping and insurance of importing


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    Shipping costs: US$300.00
    Insurance costs: US$150.00


    Calculation results


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    Total customs value (CIF): CH¥27227.61
    This is the amount that customs values your import at
    - Duty: CH¥10891.04
    - Consumption tax: CH¥4235.41
    - VAT: CH¥7200.19
    Total import duty & taxes due: CH¥22326.64
    This is the amount that needs to be paid to customs
    Total landed cost: CH¥49554.25
    This is the total cost of importing, including product, shipping, insurance and import duty & taxes
    at USD/CNY exchange rate of 6.1186

    Calculation notes


    Notes on duty & taxes rates


    • Motorcycle has an import duty rate of 40% and VAT rate of 17%, Consumption Tax rate is 10%. According to Chinese laws and Regulation for Compulsory Product Certification, importation of this item may be subjected to CCC (China Compulsory Certification) certificate

    Notes on import taxes due


    • Please note that your shipping provider may add an additional handling fee


    Retail prices

    79,500.00 CNY = 12,991.89 USD
    less estimated cost at import
    49,554.25 CNY = 8,098.16 USD
    Profit at distribution
    29,945.75 CYN = 4,829.84 USD

    From Thailand to the USA....assuming the same cost of $4000.00

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    Importing from: Thailand
    Importing to: United States View country guide

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    The type of product, its value and where it was manufactured


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    Product description: Motorcycle
    Product category: Engine Capacity: 501 - 800 cc (Upgrade account to get HS code)
    Product value: US$4000.00
    Country of manufacture: Thailand

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    The cost of shipping and insurance of importing


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    Shipping costs: US$300.00
    Insurance costs: US$150.00

    Calculation results


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    Total customs value (FOB): US$4000.00
    This is the amount that customs values your import at
    - Duty: US$0.00
    - Merchandize Processing Fee: US$25.00
    - Internal Revenue Tax: US$0.00
    Total import duty & taxes due: US$25.00
    This is the amount that needs to be paid to customs
    Total landed cost: US$4475.00
    This is the total cost of importing, including product, shipping, insurance and import duty & taxes

    Calculation notes


    Notes on duty & taxes rates


    • Motorcycle is duty free

    Notes on import taxes due


    • In rare cases, state sales tax may be collected in addition to import duty & taxes
    • Please note that your shipping provider may add an additional handling fee


    Retail price of $8,000.00
    less $4,475.00 landed costs.
    profit at distribution is $3,525.00
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  3. #23 Re: 0 tariff=0 import tax 
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    I thought the PRC import duty rate for tariff code 8711.5000 (large motorcycles) is now 30%, not 40%. You also did not list the PRC motor vehicle purchase tax which is 10%. Isn't that also imposed on imports?
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  4. #24 Re: 0 tariff=0 import tax 
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    I note that the ol' DZMoto website no longer exists and instead forwards to TonJoy (SH)

    Any new SH dealers (legitimate) in the works?
    Down in Ningbo, there's a new dealership (understood to be a partnership or similar combination) opening a '4S' moto specific shop early in June. Shop will combine QianJiang-Benelli with KTMR2R-CFMoto AFAIK.
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