0 tariff=0 import tax

[bikerdoc]

and don't forget to factor in the special 元30K administrative fee payable / bike if attempting to import a vehicle. Refer to my import duties taxes thread...

I'd assume that the ASEAN agreement does away with this 'fee'...

[bikerdoc]

Thread update:

Significant price drop on the Hayabusa GSX1300R, reduced from 239800 to 199800... still a ridiculous price IMHO... but there ya go, there's some movement on pricing... mainly downward...
制造者：日本铃木株式会社（SUZUKI） 建议零售价：
19.98万元 (199800 plus tax)

http://tonjoy.me/

Price update on the Kwaka ER-6F ABS (made in Thailand)
制造者：日本川崎重工业株式会社（Kawasaki） 建议零售价：7.95万元（本车接受预定） (79500 plus tax)

and Kwaka ER-6N ABS (made in Thailand)
制造者：日本川崎重工业株式会社（Kawasaki） 建议零售价：7.6万元（本车接受预定） (76000 plus tax)
Seems the price of the ER-6N has gone up since I last looked.

Compare those prices to the Suzuki V-Strom DL650 ABS
制造者：日本铃木株式会社（SUZUKI） 建议零售价：13.98万元 (139800 plus tax) Not made in Thailand though so not part of the discussed secretive ASEAN import agreement...

Hopefully we'll start to see a few other models manufactured in ASEAN so we might benefit before too long...

[ZMC888]

CB500? CB500? CB500?

Made in Thailand 60,000 is surely possible on this bike.

[Jonsims]

Its probably true but the bike has to be manufactured there.. So you can't get a tax free beemer or ........

I stumbled upon this website dzmotor.com, a reputable bike dealer in shanghai "so i heared"claiming they can get u a bike which is imported from thainland with 0 import tax.

The owner mentioned in the shop forum that due to ASEAN free trade agreement, no rediculous import tax is required, meaning its 100% legit for registration.

Any thoughts?

[MJH]

http://tariffdata.wto.org/ReportersAndProducts.aspx

Reporter	Year	MFN Tariff Original Nomenclature			MFN Applied Tariff
HS-code level	HS version	HS code	Number of subheadings	Number of TL	Number of AV duties	Average of AV Duties	Minimum AV Duty	Maximum AV Duty	Duty Free TL (%)	Number of Non-AV Duty	List of Non-AV Duties (for HS 6-digit codes only)
(1)	(2)	(3)	(4)	(5)	(6)	(7)	(8)	(9)	(10)	(11)	(12)	(13)	(14)
China	2010	6	HS07	871130	1	2	2	45.0	45	45	0.0	0
China	2010	6	HS07	871140	1	1	1	40.0	40	40	0.0	0
China	2010	6	HS07	871150	1	1	1	30.0	30	30	0.0	0
China	2009	6	HS07	871130	1	2	2	45.0	45	45	0.0	0
China	2009	6	HS07	871140	1	1	1	40.0	40	40	0.0	0
China	2009	6	HS07	871150	1	1	1	30.0	30	30	0.0	0
China	2008	6	HS07	871130	1	2	2	45.0	45	45	0.0	0
China	2008	6	HS07	871140	1	1	1	40.0	40	40	0.0	0
China	2008	6	HS07	871150	1	1	1	30.0	30	30	0.0	0
Thailand	2011	6	HS07	871130	1	4	4	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2011	6	HS07	871140	1	3	3	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2011	6	HS07	871150	1	2	2	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2010	6	HS07	871130	1	4	4	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2010	6	HS07	871140	1	3	3	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2010	6	HS07	871150	1	2	2	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2009	6	HS07	871130	1	4	4	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2009	6	HS07	871140	1	3	3	60.0	60	60	0.0	0
Thailand	2009	6	HS07	871150	1	2	2	60.0	60	60	0.0	0

[MJH]

There is no Asean free trade zone for finished goods, it starts at 20% and goes up to 30%


Goods are valued at wholesale costs, that is the cost that would represent them being liquated on the spot of import and with no loss of capital.


That is not always adhered to and products can be valued at what like goods have been historically valued at entering the market.


The valuation can be set and likely are for what is sometimes referred to as licensed for import. If not licensed then it get stopped and subjectively valued.

[MJH]

http://www.asean.org/communities/ase...afta-an-update

I would assume that Kawaski is getting licences so to speak to import. In that the value is set on what they pay a wholesale cost at import. Being out of a low cost production center as Thailand makes them taxed less then if out of a high cost center like Japan. Since we cannot see the cost at wholesale you can only assume the variance is profit at retail.

[MJH]

We kind of know what costs of production are in china, that can be applied to Thailand as similar.
But the production and goods are different, Thailand has Japanese’s companies that operate there and they likely pay more per unit since they integrate them into their international systems. Basically they assign unit costs for all costs incurred in research development etc, support and warranty costs? Where that begins and ends is debatable. If only production costs are assigned then the after production costs are assigned to distribution.


These discounts reflect tariffs on wholesale costs of importing, they also reflect high margins on sales. However unit sales will not be that high and likely dispersed across the market? Where they can be sold and ridden is complex in China.


They intend to be eventually duty free in Asean, but China is not in Asean. I only can rely on the WTO for rates and the table has not changed since 2011, I assume neither has the rates.

[crismoe']

I'd assume that the ASEAN agreement does away with this 'fee'...

Well if thats the case its good news for us enthusiast for having kawasaki part of our "bike list" in the near future or should i say now.... Finally the eagle has landed! If id hold off until now i would probably posting pics of er6n by now and sharing it with you guys....

But atleast its here now with reasonable price, i wont be surprise if joymotor starts to import selected Honda's cb and cbr series in mainland. Another great thing to look forward to.

[MJH]

If the rates are above 30% they are classified as sensitive and or protected, why would they drop from that to zero? Free trade zones are misnomers, they are and have tariff tiers all of them, NAFTA, Mercosur and ASEAN all have different rates on different goods. Some are duty free and some are highly taxed.


Based on the rates for importing a 600cc with a value of 4000 USD (wholesale) the landed cost in china would be 8,000 USD the variance is 4,984, represents the profit at distribution. That covers all costs it then transfers to retail they share that and it also supports all incurred overhead and warranty claims. That is shared with the retail outlet.


The unknown is the wholesale cost, I can estimate the cost out of the factory at or around 4000 USD. The prices would be fluctuating based on cost to distribute and support, not on tariffs they are likely locked in (set as licensed) and in that easier to manage importation.


The 600cc motorbike has an import duty rate of 40% and VAT rate of 17%, Consumption Tax rate is 10%. According to Chinese laws and Regulation for Compulsory Product Certification, importation of this item may be subjected to CCC (China Compulsory Certification) certificate.



That all fluctuates on what ever the real unknown is and that is the wholesale cost.