A couple new Lifan dual sports

[Jim]

I sometimes check the Lifan website to see what sorts of new things are going on there, and this time I was lucky enough to stumble upon two models I haven't seen yet... These are likely not available in North America yet though, as well as many other models they have, like the 200GY5A. The 6A looks almost like my GY6, only with the 200 replaced with a 250cc engine, and it also comes with a sort of luggage rack, and looks like the fork guards are slightly different. I wish we had more models available over here.

LF200GY-5B

Motorcycle model: LF200GY-5B
Dimension ((L×B×H mm):2130*820*1140
Wheel base (mm):1390
Min.Ground Clearance (mm): 240
Dry Weight:126kg
Height Of Seat (mm): 790
Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 8
Engine Type:Single-cylinder, air-cooled,four-stroke
Engine model: 163FML-2MP
Bore×Stroke: 63.5mm*62.2mm
Displacement: 196.9ml
Maximum Net Power 10.2kw/8000r/min
Maximum Torque:14N.m/6500r/min
Clutch: Wet multi-plate
Lubrication: Pressure/splash
Start: Electric start/kick start
Ignition:.C.D.I
Transmission: 5 gear
Max. Speed (km/h): 90km/h
Economical Fuel Consumption (l/100km): ≤2.3L/100km
Front Type Size and Air Pressure: 2.75-21/200KPa
Rear Type Size and Air Pressure: 4.10-18/225KPa
Climbing Ability (°): ≥20°
Exhaust Index: CO≤3.8%；HC≤800ppm
Start Performance: ≤15s
Braking system (front/rear): disk/drum
Brake Performance: ≤7m/30km/h


LF250GY-6A


Motorcycle model: LF250GY-6A
Dimension ((L×B×H mm):2160*830*1200
Wheel base (mm):1400
Min.Ground Clearance (mm): 260
Dry Weight:138kg
Height Of Seat (mm): 870
Fuel Tank Capacity(L): 12
Engine Type:Single-cylinder, air-cooled,four-stroke
Engine model: 167FMM-M
Bore×Stroke: 67mm*65mm
Displacement: 229ml
Maximum Net Power 10.5kw/7000r/min
Maximum Torque:15.8N.m/5500r/min
Clutch: Wet multi-plate
Lubrication: Pressure/splash
Start: Electric/kickj start
Ignition:.CDI
Transmission: 5 gear
Max. Speed (km/h): 90km/h
Economical Fuel Consumption (l/100km): ≤2.4L/100km
Front Type Size and Air Pressure: 2.75-21/200KPa
Rear Type Size and Air Pressure: 4.10-18/225KPa
Climbing Ability (°): ≥22°
Exhaust Index: CO≤3.8%；HC≤800ppm
Start Performance: ≤15s
Braking system (front/rear): disk
Brake Performance: ≤7m/30km/h



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I couldn't find a page on the lifan site for a 167FMM-M, the closest I found was a 167FMM-N, which doesn't seem right:

167FMM-N
Single-cylinder,four-stroke,air-cooled,hand-clutched, electric starter reverse 250cc

Who has the engine code decoder ring? Can we break down the code please?

[PresterJohn]

American Lifan posted a cryptic "we are working on new dual sport models for the upcoming season" on their board a few weeks back. No further information.

BTW, everybody seems to want the big engine. I'll take the 200GY-5B with the drum rear, conventional forks and 790mm saddle height, thanks.

PJ

[culcune]

American Lifan posted a cryptic "we are working on new dual sport models for the upcoming season" on their board a few weeks back. No further information.

BTW, everybody seems to want the big engine. I'll take the 200GY-5B with the drum rear, conventional forks and 790mm saddle height, thanks.

PJ

Why? (not trying to start argument, just wondering)

[Jim]

I could care less which rear brake I end up with, they would both do the job, and for my dual sport I am happy with a 200. If I were to get the 250 it puts it in a higher insurance rate class where I am, and prices go up. If I want to be in a higher rate class I've learned you may as well go to the top of the next rate class. My Vulcan is right at the bottom of it's class, and I believe the difference between it and a 750 is significant. These are just my opinions though.

[PresterJohn]

Fair question, and there's not a right or wrong answer beyond the individual. I'm attracted to the simplicity, lower cost, fuel savings - and a bike (like the 250GY-6A) with an 870mm saddle height is of very little use to me!

PJ

[Jim]

My gy6 is a little tall for me also, but not problematically so... I may however work on lowering it if it starts to bother me.

The 200GY-5B has a lower seat height then the common gy5, I thought that was a nice thing.

[culcune]

Ok...I personally got tired of the screaming 200cc, and am curious how one of the Chinese 250's runs on the open road. I commute from Yuma south to a small town just north of the US side of the US/Mexican border, and the speed limit is 50 mph (80ish kph), but the Mexican commuters are f*en flying at 75-80 + mph--I did it for a week on my 200cc jetmoto enduro, but would have preferred a little more power.

The Hi-Bird GY250 is available to me for about $920 (US)shipped wholesale to my door (I can get 1 sample from the US supplier), and this seems to be realistic price wise, but bad flashbacks of my Jetmoto stranding me (a few times) keep steering me towards a Qingqi (and I will not complain about its 200cc engine).

[Jim]

Well I have another bike which is an 800, if this were my only bike I might be more inclined towards a larger displacement model, or if I was constantly using it for commuting, but I walk to work.

[culcune]

Like I said, it will come to economics for me. Cheap 200's with standard forks/rear drum brake might be what I get, but the 250 Hi-bird seems intriguing as it is the first mass-produced (cheap) 250 available in the US. But the Qingqi is calling my name, and that is a 200--go figure!

(is the Qingqi available in Canada?)

[Jim]

It is, I don't know from where, but a friend I had in high school ended up selling them, but he went out of business :thumbdown: