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#1 Chinese engine identification
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02-22-2009, 11:09 PMDoes anybody know how to interpret Chinese engine model reference numbers?.
I know the first numbers appear to indicate capacity, but sometimes the number changes not because of different displacement but to indicate that it has a balancer. What do the letters mean, for example on a number like 156FMI?
So far I have this for the prefix numbers:
139 is 50 cc
147 is 90 cc
150 is 100 cc
152 is 125 cc horizontal engine (Honda Cub type)
154 is 125 cc " "
156 is 125 cc vertical or sloping single (Honda CG125 type)
157 is 125 cc vertical with balance shaft
161 is 150 cc
162 is 180 cc
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02-23-2009, 12:09 PM
Already posted once at chinariders BUT got deleted. I need time to translate to ENG again manually.
The standard for M/c engine is QC/T 253-1998
Machine translated text:
Motorcycles and mopeds Engine Model methodology
QC / T 253-1998
State Administration of Machinery Industry 1998-07-13 approved the implementation of 1999-01-01
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1 Scope
This standard provides motorcycles and mopeds with engine (hereinafter referred to as engines) Model methodology.
2 reference standards
The following standards contain provisions, through reference in this standard constitute the provisions of this standard. Time of publication of this standard, as shown in both versions have
Efficiency. All of the standard will be amended to use the standards of the parties should explore the possibility of using the latest version of the following criteria possibilities.
GB / T 725-1991 Product name and model of the internal combustion engine preparation rules
GB / T 5375-1998 models of motorcycles and mopeds methodology
3 Definition of Terms
The criterion used by the following definitions
3.1 natural air-cooled engine
Use of the natural flow of the air-cooled engine cylinder and gas cylinder head, such as engine parts.
3.2 forced air-cooled engine
Fan generated by the mandatory use of mobile air-cooled engine cylinder and gas cylinder head, such as engine parts.
4 Model methodology
Engine Model by Arabic numerals (hereinafter referred to as figure) and the Chinese phonetic alphabet (hereinafter referred to letters) component. Engine Model followed including
The following four parts:
4.1 Department: Product features of the code for the enterprise or product line, code-named code-named, with more than three capital letters do not express, on behalf of one of product lines
No. subject to the industry focal point for Standardization approved the record.
4.2 Central: a few symbols from the cylinder, cylinder layout of the form of symbols, stroke symbols, bore symbols. Cylinder with one of several symbols that figure. Cylinder
Path symbols with cylinder diameter (mm) express integer. Symbols and layout of the form of cylinder-stroke symbols, respectively, according to Tables 1 and 2 requirements.
Table 1-cylinder arrangement of symbols
Symbolic meaning
Unsigned oblique single-cylinder, multi-cylinder in-line oblique
V V-type
P Horizontal
Table 2-stroke symbols
Symbolic meaning
Unsigned four-stroke engine
E Two-Stroke Engine
4.3 rear
The rear of the characteristics of symbols from the cooling mode, the engine uses the characteristics of symbols and the name of the engine displacement symbols. Cooling characteristics of symbols according to Table 3 Regulation
Set.
Table 3 Characteristics Symbol cooling method
Symbolic meaning
Unsigned water-cooled
F natural air-cooled
Q forced air-cooled
Y oil-cooling
4.3.1 Characteristics of the engine uses symbols: fixed for the letter "M".
4.3.2 the name of the engine displacement symbols: According to GB / T 5375-1998 on behalf of the provisions of division of displacement, according to the provisions of Table 4 letters.
4.4 tail
Tail for the design and modified code. Design code to use Arabic numerals 1,2,3 ... ... followed by express order of engine design, when design, code-named 1
Can be omitted. Modified code to use capital letters A, B, C, D ... ... followed by express order of the original engine type modifications. Design and modified code to use symbols "-"
And in front of symbols separated.
Table 4 on behalf of emission symbols
Symbol symbol engine displacement engine the name of the name of displacement
A <50 N 300
B 50 P 350
C 60 Q 400
D 70 R 500
E 80 S 600
F 90 T 650
G 100 U 700
H 110 V 750
I 125 W 800
J 150 X 900
K 175 Y 1000
L 200 YG 1100
M 250 YL ≥ 1200
5 Model Example
Example 1: single-cylinder, oblique style, four-stroke, bore 57.3mm, natural air-cooled, motorcycle used, the nominal capacity 125mL, 2nd design
Engine model: 157FMI-2
Example 2: Chongqing Huawei Industrial Co., Ltd. Production of single-cylinder, oblique style, four-stroke, bore 47mm, natural air-cooled, motorcycle used, the nominal
Displacement 90mL, 1st design engine models are: HW147FMF
Example 3: K series, single-cylinder, oblique style, four-stroke, bore 57mm, natural air-cooled, motorcycle used, the nominal capacity 125mL, 1st
The design of the engine model K157FMILast edited by humanbeing; 02-24-2009 at 01:53 AM.
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02-23-2009, 03:16 PM
Hbing,
Thanks for re-translating the info... I know that takes a lot of work!
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02-23-2009, 06:10 PMMany thanks humanbeing. I'm amazed that something that useful can be deleted, but I've noticed that chinariders only keep threads for so long. Not a good idea, as a lot of knowledge and tips are lost that way.
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02-23-2009, 08:38 PM
I think the above text translated by google is readable to native user finally.
Translation to proper grammar will be done in my spare time slowly.
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#6 Re: Chinese engine identification
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03-24-2011, 11:25 AMI have a E22 clone engine with the model # HW139FMB. This thread helped out some, but I can't seem to track down much information. Any additional info would be helpful! Thanks, -65Cub
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#7 Re: Chinese engine identification
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12-25-2013, 09:03 PMHi I just got mini chopper and can't figure out what kind of motor it is. Serial number is.. 139FMB*041200028* If anyone knows what cc motor an whether it takes regular gas or with 2-cycle or disel fuel. Help plz
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#8 Re: Chinese engine identification
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01-03-2014, 06:17 PM1 - One cylinder
3 - 39mm bore diamater
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F - Air colled
M - For motorcycle use
B - 50cc
A quick Google confirms this and that it's also a 4 stroke. There are 3 varients of this engine shown here.
http://www.china-parts.co.uk/acatalog/New_Engines.htmlSinnis Max II (QM125-2V), K157FMI engine (technically a K162FMJ now), 115 main jet, 40 pilot jet, cone air filter, 150cc big bore kit, 17 tooth front sprocket, 30mm carburettor, alarm with remote start, HID spotlights, performance CDI.
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#9 Re: Chinese engine identification
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02-27-2014, 03:28 PMHello: I've acquired a number of engines but cannot decipher who made them or what they are. Can anybody help? The numbers are:
TZH152FMH 60607091
IP54FM1 51214377
LC1P391MA DC009900
LC152FMI FZ132484
152FMH 08064827
It's possible that some with a prefix of 1 could be I or vice versa. Any assistance would be appreciated.
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#10 Re: Chinese engine identification
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02-27-2014, 03:53 PMTZH - Series or manufacturer
1 - single cylinder
52 - 52mm bore diamater
F - Air cooled
M - for motorcycle use
H - 110cc
IP - Series or manufacturer
54 - 54mm bore diamater
F - air cooled
M - for motorcycle use
1 - Unknown (if it's an I it's a 125cc)
LC - Series or manufacturer
1 - single cylinder
P - Horizontal bore
39 - 39mm bore diamater
1 - unknown, could be part of the bore diamater number meaning that it's 39.1mm
M - for motorcycle use
A - less than 50cc
LC - Series or manufacturer
1 - single cylinder
52 - 52mm bore diamater
F - air cooled
M - for motorcycle use
I - 125cc
1 - single cylinder
52 - 52mm bore diamater
F - air cooled
M - for motorcycle use
H - 110ccSinnis Max II (QM125-2V), K157FMI engine (technically a K162FMJ now), 115 main jet, 40 pilot jet, cone air filter, 150cc big bore kit, 17 tooth front sprocket, 30mm carburettor, alarm with remote start, HID spotlights, performance CDI.
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